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According to Billet themselves, they heard nothing about compensation or payback until about 3 hours after the original GN video went live.. Which Billet hadnt even replied to before Linus made his post saying they've already made the deal on compensation.

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[–] JimmyMcGill 164 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GN absolutely destroys Linus in this video. I mean Linus gave him all the ammo by repeatedly lying and not owning up his mistakes, but still. He's calling like it is, without any sugarcoating.

I did change my sub from LTT to GN.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Nah.

GN didnt destroy Linus.

GN just assembled everything into a easily digestable package.

It was Linus's Ego that destroyed Linus.

[–] tool 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah.

GN didnt destroy Linus.

GN just assembled everything into a easily digestable package.

It was Linus's Ego that destroyed Linus.

Absolutely. I once had an absolutely terrible boss, 10000% a sociopath and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a headline that said she'd been caught with multiple bodies buried under her house, but I'm still thankful for the experience because of one sentence that she said to me:

"People fire themselves."

And that's 100% true.

She then quoted Stalin's "Death of one is a tragedy, death of a million is a statistic" as justification for trying to fire an entire department immediately after that though, so maybe it was just an infinite number of monkeys on typewriters situation. Either way, it gave me whiplash.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...Yeah that's enough.

Blatantly, and knowingly, lying (let's not pretend that wasn't the intention) about his compensation to billet is too much. No excuses for that.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (15 children)

You know what really sucks? Owning their stuff. I got the screwdriver (it’s pretty nice). I’m drinking from one of the water bottles right now (it’s also pretty nice).

How am I supposed to go on using that shit? I can’t do it in front of anyone who knows. “Oh you like that LTT stuff? You know what they did right?”

All that goodwill flushed because of ego. All that cost, sunk. And the worst part is that this discourages me from buying merch from anyone else again, lest I get burned again someday when it comes out they too are the opposite of the image they portray for money.

I guess there truly is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Or.... just don't give a fuck and reply with "Bought it before the shennanigans, bro. Not gonna toss it."

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

But what will people think? 😱

True answer: They won't give a fuck

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This response has made me lose so much respect for LTT. Linus really needs to learn when to shut up and stop digging himself into these holes. He could have just apologized, compensated Billet properly and worked on fixing whatever communication issues his team has, but instead he wrote a long non-apology where he deflected blame, tripled down on the Billet situation and just straight up lied about compensating them. Very scummy behaviour from Linus.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Linus is a narcissist.

Narcissists have to prove how wrong everyone else was.

They have to control the narrative.

And when all else fails, they have to make themselves look like the victim, so they get all the positive attention.

Thats why he cant shut up, and always doubles down to make everything worse.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Money and fame went to linus' head, didn't think it would happen considering they preach to be transparent but here it is.

If only that bald guy at LTT would have kept his mouth shut about how their testing was better than GN/Hardware Unboxed, all this drama wouldn't have blown up on ltt's face LMFAO

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I straight up had the shocked Pikachu face when he said that. Being someone with a background in chemistry, I love the level of care GN puts into their testing. To have an LTT employeee be so fucking brazen with how they shit on someone WHO DOES IT RIGHT made me unsub right then and there. Linus' reaction only made me feel even more secure in my choice.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago

I've enjoyed LTT for a long time. The quality definitely went down, which I had chalked up to growing pains.

But this is different. This is an absolute loss of trust from me, especially the response Linus posted. What a shame.

GN has another subscriber, though.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago

What a joke. Linus’s response was horrible and I’m glad Steve is calling him out on it.

[–] aluminium 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Linus has become time a big multi-millionaire media tycoon and acting as such. I really hope this takes a big chunk out his company's bottom line (to have a learning effect), he has been getting high on success for far too long.

Now say it with me lads : "You Either Die A Hero Or Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The way that he talked about spending 100, 200, 300, 400, even $500 of staff time on re-testing not being an option, when he rakes in THOUSANDS per video is pretty illustrative of where his head is at.

I was pretty excited when Linus announced that he was stepping aside, but he clearly still has way too much say on the direction of LMG and his motivations are entirely too obvious. Go away, Linus. We've had enough of you.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The quality was already going down, but now I'm unsubbed and I'll never click on a LTT video again. Sorry, but this behavior is just unacceptable.

"We didn't sell it, we auctioned it", Jesus H. fucking Christ.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

GN also literally said "auction" not "sold" in his first video, so Linus's response was doubly stupid.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It doesn't even matter. An auction is selling too, same thing. If I put my stuff on eBay and someone buys it I don't say I "auctioned it off", I say "I sold it to some guy on eBay". It's just fixed price vs a bidding, in the end a price gets reached and a transaction occurs.

Linus can't seem to take the L and just digs the grave deeper. Unfortunately at this point LTT is too big to fail, but I hope it puts a dent in their numbers and makes them eat some humble pie. Maybe they can fix their internal issues then.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean I completely agree with you in that the semantic bullshit is bullshit, my point was that Linus wasn't even correct in his attempt at BS because GN didn't use the word "sold". GN used the same word that Linus is attempting to say is totally different.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

He admits he doesn’t watch videos but instead reads the comments. Commenters often oversimplify things like this.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I'm going to borrow things "to try" from my friends house, say they sucked, and then sell them on eBay.

I'll just say I auctioned them.

GOT EM.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If now was a time to bring in a full time CEO and relegate Linus into "creative director", or whatever title he wants to give himself, now is that time.

GN has simply pulled back the curtain to show another corporation who put their bottom line before their viewers. And his response only shows this even further.

Truly disappointed by the whole debacle.

[–] glimse 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't tell if this is a joke or not...but "that time" was a month and a half ago

On May 18, 2023, Sebastian announced that he would be stepping down as Chief Executive Officer and would be transitioning into a creative role, effective July 1, 2023. Terren Tong, previously an executive of Corsair Gaming and whom Sebastian worked under during his time at NCIX, was named to replace Sebastian as CEO

[–] decadentrebel 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe he means step down as in really step down and not Vince McMahon it.

Question is, who's going to be the Triple H that will make LTT followers go "wow, I like this" when he/she takes over?

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So incredibly disappointing, I thought Linus was smart, but instead of just owning up to his mistakes and making a proper apology, he just doubled down and dug his own grave even further. If he had just apologized and explained how he would do better and make things right, and how he would prevent these mistakes from happening again, I'm sure a lot of people would've gave him another chance, but he really showed him and his company's true colors.

This is very sad to see, I was definitely a fan of LTT and enjoyed their videos, I watched and supported them for years, but now I'll no longer be watching or trusting them after this. Its heartbreaking.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Have you ever watched the WAN show? He almost always refuses to admit he's wrong. He's a douchebag.

[–] zaph 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you ever watched the WAN show?

I've tried but

He almost always refuses to admit he's wrong.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Even poor Luke is sometimes flabbergasted. You can see him trying to tiptoe around Linus' hot takes.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Just trust me guys -big media company guy

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

LTT has grown to the point they can not act as equal to any small time team or start up. Linus decision has consequence larger than he can afford by pretending "I'm just another tech youtuber". With 100+ employee, and far outsized influence in tech, LTT must be professional in their decisions.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

People here acting surprised as Linus like hw didn't do the same years ago with the crappy merchandise without warranties that he sold and double down about how everyone was wrong and he was right.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

What a way to dig himself in even deeper. Yikes.

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