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Rudy Giuliani, who pioneered the use of RICO when he was a US attorney, just got indicted on RICO charges
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What's this from?, seems familiar.
The old(?) Ricola cough drops commercials. They were huge in the '90s, not sure about since then though (I stopped watching tv a little after that period).
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If Giuliani had retired from public life in the years after 9/11 he would have had a positive entry in the history of the USA.
Now?
Well...
The praise he received after 9/11 was how I first heard his name. Shining example of "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
My sister lived in New York for a decade before 9/11. You do not want to know what the New Yorkers thought of Guiliani.
Yep. The guy has always been a total tool all his life. 9/11 gave him a positive reaction for people outside NYC.
Yes, please. We do want to know.
(I read somewhere, long ago, that some suspect he went after the Italian mob in NY merely to clear room for the Russian mob.. with attendant kickbacks to him for doing so... any juice to that?)
Long story short, he was always a slimy asshole, but here are some key points from wikipedia and just in regards to his mayoral position:
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Hated the homeless and tried to have them "removed"(used cops to arrest them and shove them in overcrowded shetlers. A church ended up suing the city for their right to help homeless people)
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"cracked down on crime", by basically aggressively arresting people for minor crimes like jumping the turnstile.
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Tried to stop multiple community service proogram for the mentally ill, elderly, day-care, etc.
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Big fan of "eminent domain" to take buildings and give them to his sponsors.
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Racist with multiple racist pollcies, many staffers and leaders left because of him.
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He threaten funding for the Brooklyn Musem if they didn't remove several pieces, specifically including one called "The Holy Virgin Mary" which was of a black person. Calling it a governement-supported attack on christianity and they had to sue the city.
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Campaigned on fixing public schools, but cut $2bill of their budget and $4.7bill from the repairs budget
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Two days after Columbine he said he wanted to "blow up" the Board of Education.
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Wanted to imprison the teachers union president if they went into strike(their contract was up and the city hadn't started any renegotiation)
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Allegedly cheated on his wife with his spokeswoman
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Tried to threaten Time Warner to have Fox on their cable network, and defended Murdoch when all the surveillance and bribery scandals came about
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His administration lost 22 out of 26 civil liberty lawsuits against them, mostly for trying to stifle first amandment rights.
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He wanted a deal with Virginia in which they had to take NYCs trash, in exchange for them being able to visit NYCs culture sites. He also tried to send it to New Jersey, and announced that wihtout actually talking to them first, at all. This all happened because he closed a landfill 20-30 years too early , because he didn't like how it looked, so it had to be shipped out of town. Costing millions, causing even more pollution, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayoralty_of_Rudy_Giuliani#Criticisms_and_controversies
And much, much more.
Don't forget 'Rudy To the Rescue,' when he libelled an EMS crew and their Lieutenant because they wanted to take a kid who'd been hit by a car to the nearest hospital.
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I mean... they voted for him. More than once. He was mayor from 1994 to 2001.
He won his first because a newspaper man named Jimmy Breslin discovered a huge scandal involving a Democrat politician, Donald Manes. Breslin did the hard work and Rudy got to play Mr. DA
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I do actually. Please tell.
New Yorker here.
It was out of town newspapers/media that pushed Rudy. Locals knew that he'd fumbled the terrorism ball dozens of times. Police and Fire Department were using incompatible radios and weren't able to coordinate efforts; his anti-terror HQ was destroyed on the day because he didn't listen to the experts who told him to put it in Brooklyn.
No one in NYC was priaisning him on 9/12.
He was always a villain.
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what's hilarious is he wasn't really all that good of a mayor. he constantly got in the way of the 9/11 response, constantly fucked people over as a prosecuter, etc. The only noteworthy "good" thing he did was be mayor of a a city, when that city became the site of the worst terrorist attack in US history.
hahahahahaha, Fulton County Georgia is gonna get and release mug shots on every single one of these motherfuckers, and the court cases are going to be televised, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
I wonder if they'll sell collections of mugs, with the mugshots on them.
They could call it Mug Club.
*My Mug Club
Donnie has wet dreams about a televised trial. It’s just another stage to him. He’ll mug the judiciary and the left will draw back in horror and the right will cheer him.
And the legal system will be left even weaker than it was before.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
"The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. "
Wrong RICO act. Trump was indicted under Georgia's version.
Oh man that's funny.
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you know what’s really funny? of the 40 counts on the indictment, Trump is charged with 14. Rudy? 15.
lmao
Trump is gonna be pissed that he got eclipsed...
Whenever I hear this man's name, I must remind everyone of the time in Borat 2 where he began to touch himself after having drinks with (who he believed to be) a young news reporter (happens around 3:30) Gross old crone ...
And she wasn't even his cousin!
This can be a side exhibit at the Men Killed By Their Own Inventions museum.
You can't piss on the American People and tell them it's rain forever
Common sense will eventually prevail, and the truth is golden.
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You love to see it.
Especially later in the summer!
Didn't he also pioneer the "perp walk"? Can we pleeeeease see him and The Cheeto led down the courthouse steps in handcuffs? Pretty please?
Takes one to know one
So a question from a non-American …. How likely is any of this to lead to actual conviction/incarceration?
What’s the feeling in the country? Is this all just likely to be brushed off?
We are in uncharted waters at this point. I don't think anyone could really answer this question with certainty.
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Most of them, Trumps guilt is almost assured. However if he elected president again, he can pardon himself for his own crimes.
These Georgia charges are very likely to land a conviction, at least on som of them. And as president trump cannot pardon any of these crimes.
I personally doubt we will see any jail time for any of them. Maybe a house arrest or something of that nature.
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I think this one has the potential to stick. Not just because it's a state charge that can be easily pardoned. But I think it tells a story that even Conservatives in the South can relate to: a bunch of elites from the North storming in and acting like they're the ones in charge.
I suppose the fear is we will get a jury, in Georgia, where I suppose there is a high chance to get a MAGA fanatic, and you only need one asshole to sabotage the entire trial. This is always the risk with all jury selections, and the lawyers are very aware of this when they do voir dire
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Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!
So much schadenfreude right now. It’s about damn time.
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