lemmy.world deleted their copy of it (due to site rules, and prompted by a concerned Internet citizen)
It's probably the biggest Community in all of Lemmy, so the ramifications will be interesting.
this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
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lemmy.world has been acting very weird lately. Almost like they are the one and the only authority of Lemmy.
I moved to lemm.ee from lemmy.world after that whole hack thing a few weeks ago and it seems like lemmy.world has been going through some weird shit ever sense.
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Yeaβ¦ itβs time to boogie off this instance for a while before they turn into Reddit Jr.
It's their instance, they are free to do as they wish to comply with their local regulations
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Hexbear drove them mad.
I am starting to get frustrated with lemmy.world. The downtime and stability was one thing but now they cloudf****ed it, the stability has not significantly improved and cloud flare can now see everything we do here. Once there is account migration I plan on self hosting an instance.
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That "concerned internet citizen" was a 10 hour old account whose only post was complaining about piracy. It was a troll out for some good ol manipulation.
Hey, that's not true. They also had posts complaining about trans people existing and Star Trek fans being nerds. Still, it's admirable - in a way - the effect they had: I ask the lemmy.world admins for updates on fixing their technical issues, and get no reply. This guy makes one post, and they all leap into action.
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oh well better late than never to migrate i spose
~~EDIT: nvm looks like dbzer0 has like 0 moderation (users just uploading gore to random subs and other shit) so can't blame lemmy world admin from having to defed. Shame.~~
EDIT EDIT: oh its just anti piracy, i thought it was a defed !
lemmy.world hasn't defedered from lemmy.dbzer0.com entirely, they've just blocked the piracy community.
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Official statement
Making official statements on Discord, and not Lemmy is WILD
Yeah, it sucks but it makes sense, there is no one to defend those volunteer individuals if anyone wants to go after them.
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Welp, hopefully more people simply move instances.
Is allowing access to piracy resources the same as hosting piracy resources? Is Comcast at risk of being shut down because they didn't block everyone's access to RARBG? This is largely rhetorical; the answer is "no". lemmy.world's admins are not being honest.
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Lots of folks here with strong opinions that have never dealt with legal proceedings, or an itemized bill calculated in 6-minute increments.
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They did what? How are they suppose to tell me which communities I can check and which I am not allowed to see?
Time to move to a new instance, good riddance
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Huh? The Piracy community on dbzer0 is still up, just checked.
People on LW can't see it anymore apparently
Another reason to create an account on a smaller instance rather than .world
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Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users canβt subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.
Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, thatβs the whole idea of federation.
De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.
Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. Thatβs why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.
Lemmyβs strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.
Defederation is bad.
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Great, time to change instance. At least it will have > 10% uptime
lemmy.world blocked it. I guess it is their right to do so, if you want to keep access to it move to another instance (it is not healthy that so many people are on LW).
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