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[–] Vub 49 points 1 year ago (6 children)

A country in crisis picks a fascist that will undoubtedly make things much, much worse. As if nobody learnt a single thing from the past.

[–] wildcardology 9 points 1 year ago

Look at the Philippines, we elected the son of the former dictator. And it was a landslide victory. I can't still believe he won.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The voters feel they have no alternative. They've tried the traditional left and the traditional right and both parties failed them.

Take El Salvador. They elected a fascist in 2019. He's turned the nation into a police state and locked up tens of thousands of young men without a trial. But his approval rating is currently 80% .. the highest in Latin America. The reason ? When he took office in 2019 the homicide rate was 51 per 100k people. It's now 8. People can walk down the street without fear. Gangs no longer harass young girls and extort protection money from local businesses.

If we want people to reject fascists we need to give them alternatives that actually work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The left wing governments have messed up so much that the people are voting into the far right as a knee jerk reaction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Except in countries where the far right have messed up in which case the opposite is happening.

Basically the takeaway is from this that everyone is kind of shit. The populations tend to just flip flop between ideologies every couple of decades.

Basically it's the political equivalent of yo-yo dieting you don't actually end up any better off.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


With some 90% of ballots counted, far-right libertarian economist Javier Milei had 30.5% of the vote, far higher than predicted, with the main conservative opposition bloc behind on 28% and the ruling Peronist coalition in third place on 27%.

The result is a stinging rebuke to the center-left Peronist coalition and the main Together for Change conservative opposition bloc with inflation at 116% and a cost-of-living crisis leaving four in 10 people in poverty.

The October election will be key for policy affecting Argentina's huge farm sector, one of the world's top exporters of soy, corn and beef, the peso currency and bonds, and ongoing talks over a $44 billion debt deal with the International Monetary Fund.

As polls closed in the early evening after voting system glitches caused long lines in capital Buenos Aires, all the talk in campaign hubs was about Milei, a brash outsider who has pledged to shutter the central bank and dollarize the economy.

In the most important leadership race, within the Together for Change coalition, hard-line conservative Patricia Bullrich, a former security minister, beat out moderate Buenos Aires Mayor Horacio Larreta, who pledged to get behind her campaign.

Whoever wins in October, or more likely in a November runoff, will have big decisions to make on rebuilding depleted foreign reserves, boosting grains exports, reining in inflation and on how to unwind a thicket of currency controls.


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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Low effort comment: He looks like an evil Beatles member

[–] crypticthree 3 points 1 year ago

He looks like one of Bilbo's judgey neighbors

[–] hark 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to guess his opponents were milquetoast candidates that were largely fine with a bad status quo.

[–] Sami_Uso 5 points 1 year ago

Something similar happened in my city. The incumbent mayor saw his challenger as not worth his time, he's held the office for a long time now. He wouldn't debate, wouldn't mention their name, largely ignored any campaigning for the primaries.

He ended up losing. A "far left" candidate won instead and then the same incumbent mayor spent the time until the election smearing the primary winner for being a socialist and had to start the most successful write in campaign I've certainly ever seen.

The old mayor ended up winning despite his hubris and we all continued on like nothing happened. It was gross and weird and it's left a bad taste in my mouth since it happened.

[–] fooky -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Libertarians are not far right.

[–] PlaidBaron 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Libertarianism as a philosophy may not be. Libertarian as a modern political entity surely is.

Im not a fan of either, but you have to realize at this point the name has been hijacked by the far right chuds of the world.

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