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Ngl, I'm very surprised and very pleased proton has lasted. They seem to be on track to remaining sustainable and true to their stated goals.
I haven't run their paid tier VPN yet, because of the linux issues, but the free tier always worked well when I was between providers and deciding who to go with.
What Linux issues are those?
No wireguard. Unable to launch on login for some DE.
Also slow ass GUI, no auto-connect on startup. I wrote a script for this. Luckily the offer a CLI
Wireguard is up. Cannot speak to the other instances.
the proton VPN client on linux is unfortunately absolute garbage and lacks a ton of features and takes forever to connect
I don't use the Client, but the OpenVPN scripts. No problem so far.
You already got the answers I was going to give lol.
In a recent e-mail they mentioned an open Linux dev position, so hopefully the Linux client will catch up soon enough!
What's the advantage of using the VPN via the browser extension instead of the VPN app (in my case, the MacOS app)?
VPN can sometimes be unreliable. I've gotten disconnected from zoom meetings when using the zoom app and a system wide VPN. Also have lagged during online gaming. The extension could be useful if you are only looking to increase web browsing privacy, while keeping a better network connection for other programs.
Isn't this what split-tunneling is for though?
Ah, yeah I guess so. I don't think that was available on the linux app which is the only one I used on a non-phone, so I didn't think of that...
It is a question of whether you really need all your traffic going through a VPN. Your app might support split tunneling. VPN browser extensions such as Proton, Mullvad, and Brave will only route that browser's traffic through VPN. Since I am running Linux, a DNS resolver and am generally off of most corp and government servers, my need for VPN is more limited. I activate ProtonVPN extension in Librewolf browser where I open news sites. I use other browsers without VPN for safe stuff such as my own and friendly fedi sites to get full bandwidth. I use split tunneling on Android to similarly exclude safe apps from VPN for a private and efficient setup.
That's nice but we are still waiting for the Proton Drive Client :(
Yeah Linux experience with proton vpn has been hit or miss. I’m excited to try this out!
Pretty neat. Paid plans only, though.
Their paid plans are really sweet tho. If I pick servers close to my location I get sub 40 ms ping, even tunneling through two servers, and you have basically unlimited bandwidth. Easily > 500 MBit/s.
And that's only like 7.something €/$ per month, including all their other stuff, (500 GB cloud storage, E2EE calendar, multiple mail addresses and whatever else is to come).
That does seem like a pretty good value. Once drive is usable, I may just have to get a paid plan.
I only use paid VPNs, but I generally want all traffic to go through them because it's hard to not have "random" stuff go out otherwise.
Providing a VPN service isn't free. If the VPN service is free then you're the product and privacy isn't what you're looking for.
There’s a lot of trust involved when using a VPN. Besides accessing things that are region blocked when you use a VPN you're basically say “Here VPN company, look at all the connection im making” and you just have to hope they’re not logging anything. They might even tell you they're not logging anything but how can you really know? And what is their intention is to not log anything but they fuck up and don’t implement that correctly?
It's great to be critical, but if at the end you throw up your arms and go without a VPN you're significantly less private.
You don't need to stop every single attack vector - not even browsing on Tails will do that. But to go with a good VPN provider who has a history of not handing over data when subpoenaed is good
Where can I find that good VPN provider? My ISP is "doing work" and that always makes me realize how vulnerable my household is to spying eyes.
I'd love to add a VPN to my home router (Opnsense) which continues to give me all the same features, no loss of speed, and complete privacy.
Ideas?
Bit late but both Mullvad and Proton are good. Neither work on the router level though; I don't know of any excellent ones that do off the top of my head
Proton or mulvad
How does Proton VPN compare to Mullvad? I've been using them for years and they really are anonymous. You don't even provide an email to create your account.
If you're satisfied with mullvad, i would stick to it. The main problem it runs into is that it doesn't support port forwarding which is an issue if you use torrents a lot. That's the main advantage that proton reserves.
I like having this extension a lot. Being able to just mask my web browsing but still not taking the performance hit for games is wonderful
I’m having more luck with ProtonVPN using the flatpak. I’ll have to check this out too.
I don't like proton products. It feels like a false sense of security
Can you explain this? Are you vulnerable because they are too mainstream?
They are vulnerable because they are not all that secure and private. (Email is flawed)