Title. I thought it deserves it's own post. Any comments appreciated.
I don't want to be forced to drive places by stupid car centric public space design. The freedom to walk everywhere is my god given right.
this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2023
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From what I observed travelling in countries where one can walk or take public transit anywhere, people have more freedom because they're not dependent on having a car (and all the costs associated with them). The elderly can still live independently and kids can go to school without needing to be driven. Communities tend to feel more connected too when people can get together in communal areas, which is what I witnessed walking around the streets and plazas in South America.
"God given right." It's weird that he thinks the DMV is God.
"Dick", the censored word is "Dick", kids.
This is not US cable TV. Let's keep it that way.
Hilarious that dick was censored but not the fuck in fuck cars.
It was to prevent brigading, not to censor obscenity.
Oh my gosh, I am used to sharing other ways, it's a habit. It's still kinda funny tho.
Haha sorry, used to it.
It's interesting that God only decided to give people this right after they had lived on the Earth for millions of years.
Are cars in the bible? Has this guy heard of a driver's license? Obviously isn't a right at all. Fuck cars! Electric rail everywhere!
He's using the new modem Bible. It's the, 'My God given right!' Edition.
So for example Genesis. Exodus. Leviticus. and Numbers... Just not applicable in today's world...
So instead replaced with Ford, Chevy, Buick, and Cadillac.
Then it really starts to pop off later were they replaced Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John with Remington, Winchester, Smith and Wesson.
... Fucken eh, I was just taking the piss, I had not expected I managed to somewhat guess it right...
Christians reject Jesus... How do you call yourselves Christians still!?! How!?
I'm not religious or anything, but they should add some product placement to the Bible.
"Today's church service is brought to my Dunkin'"
You're far more patient than I ever could be. Good one you. It's conversations like these that change people's minds. If not OC, than those less stubborn who read the interaction.
Yes this is my own post. Yes, I'm not very humble. But thanks for your compliment.
Being nice and understanding had proven to help change minds, rather than forcing them to get all defensive and everything.
Apparently he lives far away from everything, so not driving for him is not a realistic option. He did say on his own as well, that he shouldn't be in the community.
Don't bother trying to change their minds, you won't do it. It's generally done in bad faith.
Instead, aim to make other readers think. An uncontested comment is seen as supported by the larger community. Just contesting it makes a big difference. If you can educate, at the same time, all the better.
The right has been using this trick for years. It makes their opinion seem disproportionately supported.
It's not a right, it's a privilege that is granted to the competent and is taxed.
"I'm all about freedom! It's my god given right "
Anyways here's how I'm going to use the government to force others to build and maintain a billion parking spaces they don't want or need
I guarantee this guy hates congestion as well
Driving is a privilege not a right. How did we get here? Who is fucken producing these igits and letting them wander away from the organ harvesting factory?
I wish people from All didn't engage with fuck cars. I don't hang out in a community called "fuck cars" just to have talking heads from shit-town-fediverse.net in every comment section, who have never thought critically about car-dependency, say, "AtCHUalLY cars are pretty useful!!1!"
I think we need more active moderation
Banning cars altogether is achievable and it's political. Everything's political.
I browse All and sometimes see content from this community and I'm not completely on board with all of you....
But, that was a very good response. You've acted like and adult. It's very rare on the internet.
The non adult acting like an adult? I mean thanks but I'm 15 lol.
There are a lot of 30 year olds that act 12.
Agree on majority of the post, except for "make the choices you feel are right". Hard disagree on this normatively. If you're saying it descriptively, sure, but it's essentially tautological at that point.
We shouldn't advocate that people just act in whatever way feels correct to them. Sociopaths feel like it's okay to do things that are not okay. So do bigots, racists, speciesists, sexists, etc.
We should instead do what you're doing with the majority of your post, advocate for correct positions and then come to a rational conclusion with the people we are talking to. Giving them a get out of jail free card, permitting them to do literally anything, is unnecessary.
Invoking guilt, yes I'm saying it descriptively. I put it at the end as a "I'll let you make the right choice". Thanks for pointing it out, though.
You posted a snarky comment, immediately screenshoted it, and then uploaded the snarky comment you just posted elsewhere... my god you are annoying
So is that a good thing? I'm not karma farming (cuz I can't), and I'm trying to give off genuine vibes. It works persuasively and I have nothing better to do with my time.
Yes, I see your point, but also no.
Thank god they dont have a car!
The comment you're replying to sounds like it might be sarcastic, but not sure without being able to hear the tone.
On one hand I hear you. On the other hand I've heard these exact words come out of "libertarian" mouths before
Not too sure, I'm going to assume it's serious unless there's a tone indicator. Did I get the community values right or something?