Asklemmy

Meta is a corporation with a really horrible track record

and even if they didn't, it's still a corporation; it only cares for profit

I have very negative opinions on them joining

They can fuck right off.

All they'll do is centralize the decentralized.

Nope. Just nope. It'll be the death of the Fediverse.

I mean everyone could just not federate with them, right?

Meta is cancer, it turns everything it touches into medical biohazard. It gives voices to the worst of society, and gives them space to organize. It devalues information available out there by diluting it with useless crap, and worse, it makes shit look as valuable as well-researched and well-thought-out pieces.

However, having said all that, I'm torn as to what I could personally do about a meta-owned Mastodon instance.

While I can certainly contribute my voice telling instances, especially my home instance, to defederate from them, I can still see how even an isolated Meta instance can do damage. There's nothing stopping Meta from having their own instance, nor other instance owners from federating with them. Even defederating with instances that have federated with the Meta instance would do damage by encouraging factionalism and the overall fracturing of the Fediverse.

The best way of dealing with cancer is to be eternally vigilant, eliminating them at their very roots. I am not sure how I, an ordinary user in one of the larger Mastodon instances, can help.

Embrace, extend, extinguish

This may be controversial, but I see this as a net-positive for the internet long-term. The more momentum the Fediverse has in terms of growth, the more incentive other services have to join it, and the more everyone on the internet can be on the same page. One of the worst aspects of the internet right now is that different services don't even speak the same language; there's so much fragmentation. The fediverse forces services to be about the quality of the service itself, rather than the quantity of the content being hosted.

In general, it's great when companies embrace standards and open source. Though in the case of Microsoft, they just did it to gain the market share (embrace, extend, extinguish).

I'm under no illusion that they would be doing it out of the kindness of their hearts or desire to be compliant with standards.

But..i also don't think I can criticize them yet for wanting to do so.

I will avoid this like the literal plague it is. I don't believe for a single moment they have good intentions. My guess is that some people at Meta have identified the fediverse as the future and they want to try and find a way to capitalise on it and possibly monopolise it.

Lmao want nothing to do with them. One of the reasons I’m here is to escape these dogshit corpos

I don't know anything about it except for what you said, but yeah fuck them. I'd much rather donate my money (well, once I get a job that is) to a bunch of people to maintain a server and simply jump on another instance if anything weird happens than use another Meta's (or any other shitty corpo's) products

I’m here because I hate what meta and other companies are doing to the web, so I detest it.

They what now? Wtf

Eternal September anyone?

My problem with that is then the fediverse doesn't grow, meta controls the largest instance, and they make money off any posts that go viral here. I have to disagree for those reasons. They can go.

They're trojan horse. We can't stop them from creating their own servers, but we can choose to defederate them. Up with the Anti-Meta Defederation Pact

They'll probably adopt, adapt, and extinguish. So no, fuck 'em.

I think this is so interesting...

For a refreshing change, we have corporations coming to the users, not the other way around.

I'm deeply skeptical, but I'm glad communities and hubs have the power to block them outright.

Pros

• more attention to the Fediverse and all the advancement that may bring with it.
• If the Fediverse ever becomes mainstream corporations will end up with their own content on it so having Meta join would provides early insight on how the Fediverse may be effected by becoming mainstream.

Cons

• Some instances may not have the server load to support being federated with Meta
• There's a decent chance it hinders healthy growth (Like a Cuckoo hatchling that starves out the bird's actual children.)

We know very little at this point. My view is “wait and see”. Little point in speculating about things now IMHO.

I'm not ok with wanting the Fediverse to grow at all costs. Meta's userbase is shit, the company is shit, zuckerberg is shit. Meta is becoming irrelevant and I don't want to help them, let them slowly rot.

If they join the Fediverse I am leaving. We have made the Fediverse to get away from coorporations like them, letting them join us will defeat the whole point of what we have.

Will be interesting.
More likely to be noticed by calckey,misskey/friendica users who are on platforms.more similar to Facebook. Probably noticed by Mastodon users.

Not sure if kbin/Lemmy users will notice. This is based on me not noticing posts from these servers on Mastodon, calckey etc