this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2023
429 points (97.8% liked)

politics

19243 readers
2343 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

A report from The New York Times details yet another luxury obtained by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas using funds from a wealthy associate. In this instance, it's been revealed that he purchased a Prevost Marathon RV in 1999, using $267,230 received from Anthony Welters, a former executive at UnitedHealthCare who worked alongside Thomas in the Reagan administration, per the outlet. In a statement on the matter, Welters said that the funds were considered a loan and that it has since been "satisfied," avoiding the phrasing "paid off," which means it could have been a gift that would have then needed to be disclosed

all 36 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Anthony Welters, a former executive at UnitedHealthCare who worked alongside Thomas in the Reagan administration

A Democratic donor who worked for the Reagan admin? Come on now

[–] RunningInRVA 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It doesn’t really matter. Thomas is easily bought off and that’s the problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't think anyone was upset because they thought it was only Republicans bribing people. A bribe from a Democrat(ic/lobbyist/whatever) is the problem. Taking the money and not saying anything about it is the problem to me. His co-worker coming out and saying "yeah congress doesn't have any authority over us" last week is a problem to me. All these ruling-class college frat chums paying each other off and fucking everyone else in the process, is a problem to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And this is the difference between us and the Maga cult

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] rezifon 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think you misread. The article seems to refer to Thomas’ time when he served in the Reagan administration and working alongside Welters who was an executive at UnitedHealthCare at the time.

I agree it’s awkwardly phrased and hard to follow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Looks to me that Weller is an R who worked for Reagan at the time of the donation. His wife may have worked for Obama later on and could indeed be a Dem, or perhaps switched.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably donates so the Dems don’t do single payer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the dates and who was actually doing the donating at the time makes a difference.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care what their politics is. I hope pro publica takes this up and tracks the money to the source and prints eye watering story about it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the way.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is that hard to believe? Trump used to be a Democrat, Biden voted for anti-LGBQT laws (eg. DOMA), Liz Cheney has recently supported LGBQT rights, etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Trump has never been anything other than a deranged psychopath. He's non-political. What I mean is it really doesn't matter. Corruption is just corruption. The reporting is misleading. That's what I take issue with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I know, but Trump isn't the only corrupt politician who cares more about power than policy.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Man, I want a job where people just give me six figures in addition to my salary and I can do whatever the fuck I want with it.

"Good afternoon Bob.".
"Good afternoon, Soda. How's the family?".
"Doing great, not affected by anything I do at work at all.".
"That's great, Soda. Oh by the way here's $300,000"
"Nice, thank you Bob. I'll see you around."

[–] K1nsey6 3 points 1 year ago

That's a day in the life for members of Congress

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why can the SC accept donations if they are supposed to be impartial?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Cause they're crooked.

Especially Thomas, holy cow.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There are no rules saying they can't. This is all still legal if completely immoral. SCOTUS is a co-equal branch of the government which in the past had be given to regulating itself. It's starting to look like Congress will have to step in and pass some ethics constraints since SCOTUS won't adopt one.

[–] Burn_The_Right 37 points 1 year ago

Why would a justice need a donation? They don't have campaigns to finance. There isn't any legal justification for a "donation".

"I didn't pay that hitman, detective. I donated to him."

When articles refer to these payments as "donations", they are becoming complicit in the lie.

[–] flossdaily 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's always been rich vs poor.

[–] Cameli_Hostis 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should set up a GoFundMe and buy our own Supreme Court Justice. Does anyone have a coupon?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of an episode of Common Sense by Dan Carlin from yeeears ago that basically said "the system is corrupt and voters aren't able to command our politicians to do what we want, so what if we just pool money together and bribe them too?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounds like you just invented elections.

[–] WoahWoah 3 points 1 year ago

What sort of bizarre elections are you voting in? I haven't had the chance to bribe a politician with cash at the ballot box even once!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Will this make conservatives care now?

[–] Kushan 4 points 1 year ago

Will it fuck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

THey would have cared if it was a Dem judge. It's okay for CT

[–] Multech 8 points 1 year ago

What a piece of shit. Fuck Clarence Thomas.

[–] K1nsey6 7 points 1 year ago

Capitalism doesnt give a fuck about party.

[–] Ddhuud 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] charles 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Caravan, camper. Something that costs $200k+ would look like this and be more like a house on a bus:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

$200k then is like 400k now, that's a crazy ass RV O_O

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Recreational Vehicle. Like a home on wheels.