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Okay, this is not an iPhone vs Android Phone debate. I respect your right to choose whichever platform that you want.


I mean, iPhone seems so antithetical with the idea of freedom. You have to connect it to a server to even use it, all apps have to go through a centralized server, no option to install whatever apps you want, which means, you literally cannot have any third-party apps without an online account.

Most of my fellow americans seems to love the idea of freedom so much, yet just buy into a closed ecosystem with no freedom? 🤔

Like almost 60% of Americans use iPhone, kinda weird to preach freedom when you cant even have an app without a corporation's approval. If it were any other country, I wouldn't find it weird, but for a country that's obsessed with the idea of freedom (so much so that they disobeyed mask mandates), it's really weird to be using a device with zero freedom.

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[–] jeffw 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Why do most [insert country here] people use [insert brand from their country here]???

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Honestly, at this point, the only reason to go with either ecosystem is that Android, for now, allows you to escape Google, to some degree depending on how much work you're willing to put in. IOS/apple doesn't allow that

But, Google is trying hard to get to the same place.

But, ignoring that, apple got there first. That's what it amounts to. The first real smart phone was by Apple, and that gave them a leg up

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I personally do not trust Google at all. Their entire business model is ads and tracking.

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[–] Acidbath 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

android user now but basically... it might be that most of us Americans try to take the path of least resistance or whatever doesn't give us headaches. I mean like, almost everything we do (except taxes) are pretty simplified. And even for taxes, we can LITERALLY pay for services to simplify or do it for us ( like wtf, this is kinda stupid). Apple does a good job of making it an easy experience.

  1. easy to use - like an automatic car vs manual car.

  2. popular apps just work - I don't think its a problem now but I remember when some social media apps were just broken on android vs iphone.

  3. a lot of the software looks pretty clean and fancy. Gives it a polished experience.

  4. HARD TO LEAVE - Apple products work better with other apple products. Once you leave, you basically lose out on all the purchases you've made over the years.

  5. Apple store support - life saver for most people

  6. Security updates more consistent.

Hell, trying to adjust from typing with iphone keyboard to android keyboard took longer than expected.

Also our government issues out iphones for fed employees.

[–] Treczoks 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because they are easily gullible.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

The binary choice is the freedom. As many people in this thread have discussed, it’s not a real choice, but it’s simple enough that most people will put on blinders and accept the available options.

I use iPhone. It sucks but network effect from people in my circle brought me here

[–] AbouBenAdhem 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I would never use an iPhone if my phone were my primary computing device. But I just make occasional calls and texts, and use a handful of apps (for instance, Nextcloud and Home Assistant connected directly to my home server, bypassing most of Apple’s ecosystem).

For a secondary device, I just want something simple and sturdy that I have to think about as little as possible—and for that specific use case the limitations are a plus.

[–] AA5B 3 points 2 days ago

I do always wonder if this is part of it. I want my phone to just work, but I have more appropriate tools for playing with stuff. My servers are Linux, my laptop is windows, and my work is Mac - appropriate tools for my uses. My kids can spend all day tweaking their gaming computers, but want their phones to just work also

While I’m atypical in how many different computers I have, are we just more used to multiple devices in the us?

[–] NeoNachtwaechter 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Usamericans usually like to look for "the best", whatever that means, and never accept "second". I assume that they need that to feed their pride.

Apple has managed to make them believe that iPhone products were the best smartphones, and all of Apple's marketing is focused on maintaining that belief.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Through the release of the first iPhone to the mid 2010s I'd wager that most consumers agreed that iPhones were superior to Android by most metrics: they featured more support across the board, had more apps, looked nicer, and were considered the premium. Apple pioneered the modern smartphone and had a headstart in getting users hooked into their ecosystem. Nowhere was this more pronounced than in the wealthiest country in the world (and Apple's home country).

That's a huge generalization but I think it resonates true to a degree. Also, anecdotally, I remember that all my school computers were Macs when growing up. I'm sure Apple seeped its tendrils into people's lives a variety of ways. It's not a cake walk for most people to switch ecosystems. As a lifelong Windows user I'll have a panic attack if you asked me to print a document on a Mac; I'm sure its the same vice versa lol

[–] MurrayL 2 points 2 days ago

Also a lifelong Windows user, but have to use a Mac for work as of last year. I was expecting it to be a nightmare, but honestly 99% of the day to day stuff is either identical or similar enough that you can figure it out in a minute or two at most.

Things get a bit trickier if you’re trying to do more complex power user type stuff, since there are different paradigms at play, but even then a quick search will easily point you in the right direction.

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