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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I literally had to switch bank accounts because I couldn't reset my password "on the web" and required me to use Virgin Money's app.

Customer service agent(s) on the phone after prolonged discussions why their app wouldn't work on three Android phones right in front of me surfaced, and I shit you not

Well sir, I have my iPhone here and can login just fine maybe you should buy one of those instead

That day I found out about this

https://www.currentaccountswitch.co.uk/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I also had to switch accounts because after an update, the banking app didn't work any longer on my rooted phone and I couldn't log in. Thankfully, I've been keeping two accounts since forever, with the main motivation being that banks really like changing their TOS and introducing all sorts of fees, which I don't want.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (7 children)

have you tried stop being poor?!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Everything by Virgin is shit. I don't understand why they're so big

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This affects me a lot day to day. I have a phone, but it runs postmarketOS, not iOS or Android. It really shows me the importance of open standards. I feel that every business should be required to support open standards for each of the services they offer.

For me, buying train tickets used to be ok, but is getting harder now. Some train operators are really pushing you to use their app now, and getting rid of the option to download a PDF. It really frustrates me: it's not like it costs them more to offer PDF download - if anything, it's much cheaper to offer that functionality than to build and maintain an app for iOS and Android.

Back when I had an Android phone, I used Monzo, and it was so easy to send money to friends, set up standing orders etc. I wish they offered a proper web interface. Now, I use Natwest's online banking, and it's a real pain - I use the card reader to authenticate, then the website logs me out seemingly every 2 mins of inactivity. Some features, like pre-notifying that you'll be travelling abroad, are only available on the app. I only see this trend continuing.

The concert tickets example in the article is insane to me. I can't think of a use case that is better suited for PDFs, and that's what we've been doing for the last 10+ years without any issues. It really is user hostile and excludes people on the edges of society who don't fit, for whatever reason, with what the 80-90% do.

[–] glitchdx 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

apps allow user tracking and advertising though. Much more valuable to the corpos than a few lost customers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also mich More valuable to Google, as they are the biggest Advertising company. I looked it up and according to this source they have ~70% of the pay-per-click market.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The reason venues don't allow PDFs is so that you're forced to use their own platform for resale where they take a commission.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I flat-out refuse to do business with any that requires I use an app. I won't even scan a QR code for a restaurant menu; that's my cue to go eat elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (22 children)

I don't mind the whole online menu thing. It's probably an environmental net positive, but it's bs if they don't have ANY physical copies for those who can't or don't want to for whatever reason.

If they wanted me to install something, though, that'd be a 100% instant nope.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Worst thing about qr menus for me is that when I finally order, I have to give my phone number and address. Bro, I'm sitting across from the kitchen and just want dumplings. Why I gotta dox myself for that?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Scan QR code. Order on your phone. Pay on your phone. Asks for a tip.

So uh, what exactly am I tipping you here for dawg?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The funny thing about qr codes for restaurant menus to me, as someone that studied menu design. Is that actual menus are designed specific ways make the restaurant more profit and make it easier for people to find what they want. Whereas qr codes often bring one to a hastily designed list of categories which are not only less intuitive but also less manipulative. So people will end up taking longer to order less profitable dishes.

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[–] Xanthobilly 55 points 1 day ago

It’s also a gigantic information harvesting ploy.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is what I noticed. Everything these days require app to get shopping vouchers, book tickets, go in to your local gym, pay in store (we are being weaned off from using cash) etc.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you don't have a smart phone in the US, even temporally, your almost a second class citizen.

Then if you don't install corporate apps on your phone, there are even more problems for you.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The whole using your phone for everything from grocery shopping to just doing whatever Like getting deals or whatever?, Can it please go away?

They're collecting our data anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A mobile app requirement is an easy excuse for me to nope the fuck out.

[–] glitchdx 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My old apartment had gates that could only be opened with an app. They took out the card reader and made it app only. Should have gotten out of there much earlier than I did.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

I keep seeing this headline and thinking it's a slur

[–] DarkSpectrum 14 points 1 day ago

Cloudalist's and their technofuedalism

[–] Jakdracula 2 points 1 day ago

I have an app for that.

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