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[โ€“] [email protected] 147 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

As much fun as Sync is (and while I appreciate creators want to get paid)...

We're talking like $15-30(!). That's steep for a phone app. All this money stuff is pushing me back to Connect and Jerboa.

I wish Sync well. But I think I'm done with it already.

[โ€“] Haggunenons 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Voyager is fantastic IMO. wefwef.app , it is a web app, it will even put am icon for itself on your phone so it feels just like a regular app. Works really great, and is really fast.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Connect and Jerboa

Try Liftoff and Thunder, I find them vastly superior; they are FOSS and available for both Android and iOS.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While liftoff was the only third party I liked, I still think it was pretty unimpressive. It ran ok and that's about it. Features were lacking, aesthetics are bad, some glitches. For me the $20 or whatever it is for sync is worth it. I've used reddit since 2012 and browsed exclusively on my phone, swapping between relay and sync. If you average that cost out, even considering the $5 or whatever it was to get rid of ads on Reddit, it's basically nothing. The usage tracking is pretty shitty though.

EDIT: Ok I just saw the lifetime price for ultra, damn wtf lol. Again, averaging that cost over the ten years I've used the app means it's still a good deal but fuck upfront that's a lot lmao

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[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They are okay and did the job until Sync came out. But are no way near as polished as Sync, which has years of updates and development.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ditto. I used to be a big Sync fan and used it for years as my primary mobile client for Reddit until 8-10 months or so ago when the dev did a 'fuck off and be unable to be contacted while something in the app breaks' break, which led to a bunch of ads appearing despite paying for no ads (and according to people on the subreddit at the time it was not a one time occurrence lol). I switched that day to Boost and didn't go back, but I was looking forward to trying out Sync for Lemmy when it released.

All the privacy and pricing concerns the last 24 hours have brought forth does not make me wanna even touch the app lol. I'm not paying that much money to fucking browse a glorified forum on my phone (specially when there's many other options).

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[โ€“] BA834024112 120 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I would pay extra to not have to hear people complain about a choice no one is forcing them to make

Do what works for you, and let other people do the same

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[โ€“] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (15 children)

This post lead to me to send 20 USD to the Jerboa/Lemmy devs.

[โ€“] andrr_464 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Happy to hear that, these devs need to eat too right

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[โ€“] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Greed.

I signed up for a year of Ultra yesterday, more as a show of support. I'm already regretting it after seeing how many tiers of pricing are now being shoved out.

I get the dev has to eat, but this is completely going against everything Lemmy is supposed to be about, while costing significantly more than its Reddit counterpart.

While not necessary, it would have been nice if there was a small discount for Ultra subscribers of Sync for Reddit. I got just over 1 year of usage out of my 'lifetime' purchase. A gesture, even a small one, would have been nice.

I've just been soured over this whole thing, tbh.

[โ€“] ljdawson 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

I added the new price tiers based on user feedback on here after launching.

[โ€“] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I appreciate that, but your pricing is still still disproportionately high, especially when compared to the number of fantastic free alternatives out there.

I love your app, and I've supported you as a Pro and Ultra member on Sync for Reddit as well, but I really think you should reconsider the current subscription pricing and lifetime purchases for Ultra options. As far as I'm aware, Sync is also one of the only major Lemmy apps that has introduced ads/pay to remove ads option. You've brought subscriptions and money into a platform that is now home to an exodus of users that hated how those things were slowly destroying Reddit. It just doesn't sit right with me.

I've signed up for a year out of a show as support for you. The best thing you could do is show your long-term support for this platform by encouraging growth and fair options for users rather than creating multi-tiered pay walls with questionably high prices.

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[โ€“] aetrix 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I put in for a yearly ultra subscription and I'd do it again. Not everybody here is a FOSS crusader or hanging around on /c/piracy. Some of us are just Reddit refugees that want our Sync back because it was awesome.

Hell, just add a built in pirate mode for these people that removes ads for free. I bet most of us would gladly pay anyway, and it will hopefully put an end to all the sobbing

[โ€“] nicocarbone 23 points 1 year ago

Maybe you should consider further regional prices. Here in Argentina it is U$S 20. I really want to support the app, but it is quite steep given our conversion rate and average income...

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[โ€“] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Between the ads, pricing and tracking I'm just going to stick to Liftoff, it works really well.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The price is very reasonable if you realize the economy of scale is not there yet. There is only about 100,000 monthly active Lemmy users right now. Even if 1% of those users bought the app at $20, the dev only net ~$14,000 for working on his app full time. The calculus will surely different if Lemmy have 10x more active users which will allow the dev to lower the app pricing while still sustaining himself.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (11 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...or Thunder, which is very similar to Liftoff. I use them pretty much interchangeably. Both are built with Flutter, have similar UX and performance and they work on both Android and iOS.

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[โ€“] UnknownQuantity 29 points 1 year ago

AUD $33.99. No thanks.

[โ€“] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I got it for 15. Is it expensive for ad removal? Yes. Is it too expensive? No, for me personally no. I wanted to support the dev and I did it. Also It's the only app I am going to use until Lemmy is no more.

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[โ€“] lemmefixdat4u 21 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Simple solution. Get DNS66 from the F-droid site (not the Play Store version that wants a subscription). That takes care of the ads in all my apps. It inserts itself like a VPN, filtering all Internet traffic, blocking the ad servers.

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[โ€“] seiryth 19 points 1 year ago

Honestly I think we all need to relax. Lemmy is a niche app that's rising, and it's one guy. I paid for ultra since it was cheaper than the pay for no ads option.

$29AUD or whatever it was per year for ultra is literally paying a dev once a year for their work, and to keep it updated and build features.

The outrage is really ridiculous considering how quickly the app was built, how decent the experience is and the realities of the real world right now.

Pay the cash, you're not going to remember it by the time you're paid next. For the job you did, producing something. Like this guy did.

[โ€“] Skorpjun 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Imho 15 eur is actually a fair price. In my country you can get a McDonald's meal for that price that satisfies me once whereas Sync satisfies me everyday ๐Ÿ˜„. And 25 still seems okay to me for a nice app like this. I can imagine a lot of effort is put in this app. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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[โ€“] BestTestInTheWest 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's been $33.99 AUD since it was released.

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