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[–] acosmichippo 68 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

if you can't tell the difference between a nice OLED and an average LCD then you need your eyeballs checked.

[–] MichaelScotch 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s not just about oled vs lcd. There’s a huge difference between backlight arrays in cheap lcds vs expensive lcds. And there’s still benefits to choosing lcd over oled. Either way, some people just don’t care about image quality. I have a friend that claims he still can’t tell the difference between dvd and Blu-ray, or 4k Blu-ray.

[–] acosmichippo 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

sure, it was just an extreme example. the point is the article is nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It might be kind of helpful for like a portion of the population. Maybe.

[–] acosmichippo 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

maybe if they said "expensive TVs are not worth it for some people" but 1) that's not what they said, and 2) that's obvious and doesn't need analysis anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There’s plenty of people in this very thread who are super proud of their 7 year old $300 nameless small tvs

[–] FauxLiving 5 points 3 days ago

The people:

1000002268

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

My girlfriend has a shit 300$ 4k tcl and fwiw the difference between my midrange Samsung and higher end Visio and her shit tcl is definitely not $1000+ in my opinion.

Happy I have the better quality for sure

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can tell OLED and regular LED or LCD apart, but that type of improvement never seemed worth it to me. Maybe I should have checked out some specific content on it, but OLED never really blew my mind.

[–] acosmichippo 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

that's perfectly reasonable, everyone will have a different cost/benefit calculation. But that's a lot different than saying expensive TVs aren't actually better.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Expensive large screen displays are better.

Smart TVs are privacy invasive billboards that let you watch some TV on their terms.

[–] Arbiter 35 points 4 days ago (4 children)

They’re a little bit better if you just never connect them to the internet.

[–] Fungah 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I opened my smart TV and removed the Bluetooth/WiFi PCI card that was inside it.

Good fucking luck connecting to something you privacy invading piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

This just doesn’t seem to click for a lot of people for some reason that I cannot explain whatsoever. I don’t even have mine connected to electricity when I’m not using it.

[–] triptrapper 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be honest, I recently got a TCL Roku TV and I almost gave up on trying to use it as a dumb TV. I'm not a beginner at this, but setting up a network connection was so embedded in the initial setup, from the moment you turn the TV on. I did a couple factory resets and I could not figure out how to bypass it. Turns out I had to set it to "store display mode" at a certain point and then connect my other streaming device.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, the Roku OS is REALLY baked in there and REALLY wants your data, and they recently updated it to make it even harder to circumvent. The trick is to just block its connection at the router level.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

My gf has one of these and I tried to plug and Apple TV into it to bypass all of that and it won’t take the signal …. It works everywhere else but that Roku TV is like “nah fam, no signal sooorrrrryyyyty”

[–] triptrapper 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh my god that didn't even occur to me. Maybe I am a beginner!

[–] IamAnonymous 2 points 3 days ago

I have a Fire TV which I rarely use and when I do I stream from the Apple TV box. I noticed that the TV was consuming 50-100mb data per day even when it was turned off. I have blocked WiFi access using my router so I can tell you that it works.

[–] SamboT 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Mine gets put in the garage when its not being used. Microphones to record you can work on battery power inside the tv

[–] Arbiter 6 points 4 days ago

I keep mine chained up in the basement when not in use.

[–] Lexam 3 points 4 days ago

I'm picturing a big screen on the old school TV carts.

[–] eager_eagle 8 points 4 days ago

Exactly what I did. I'd get a 65" monitor if there was any. But an always offline smart TV will do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Even then you still have a bunch of cheap hardware crammed into an insufficiently ventilated box that will lead to problems down the line.

My TV is 15 years old, not very smart, thick as oatmeal, but works like a charm.

[–] acosmichippo 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

you don't have to use the smart bulllshit.

[–] AA5B 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I’m not worried about me using the smart bullshit. I’m worried about it using me. Beyond the ones that literally spy on you through camera or microphone …

A few years back I started to see descriptions of media recognition, so a tv could know what you’re watching even if it’s not through one of its apps. While I have no idea how widely that’s deployed, it’s awfully dystopian. There’s a specific reason to keep your smart tv off the network, even if you never use the apps.

I’ve also read articles (not sure if legit) about smart TV’s piggybacking on other networks, such as using WiFi even when you disable it, or picking up your streaming devices network over hdmi

[–] acosmichippo 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you can opt out of all that stuff. They bury the options deep in the settings but you can do it and it works.

[–] AA5B 1 points 2 days ago

While there are usually options to opt out, past behavior has shown that manufacturers can’t be trusted. It starts with opting you in by default, and trying to trap you into one sided terms of service that you can’t even see until you’ve “agreed” by opening the box. However most manufacturers have been caught ignoring these options in the past, so we have no reason to trust they won’t again. Especially here in the US where what little consumer protection we used to have is being shut down

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (8 children)

It's still there, though.

And since it's usually one integrated board, a failure in the "bullshit" will likely affect the not-shit.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm still rocking a 2011 38" vizio from Costco. Does everything I need, nice and dumb, as a TV should be. A bigger and higher def TV won't bring me more happiness, so I'll be sticking with it until it quits and I can't fix it.

[–] AA5B 1 points 3 days ago

I just had similar I gave to my kid. OLED was a huge upgrade. My new TV is much higher contrast, much smoother, more detailed, especially in high activity scenes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago
[–] CosmicGiraffe 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This assumes that the reviewer who gave the rating wasn't considering value as part of their scoring. I'd expect the reviewer to be scoring a TV based on his good it is compared to similarly priced competitors, not comparing to every other TV on the market

[–] mahin 10 points 4 days ago

Rtings.com scores do not include price as a factor. Scores are calculated by multiple test results.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I bought a Roku smart TV 65in like 5 years ago. Light as a feather and never gave me a minutes trouble. Think I paid like $300 for it.

[–] thesohoriots 4 points 4 days ago

I’m in the same boat, bought a Samsung 40-something-inch smart tv for around $300 maybe 6 years ago off the neglected “small TV” aisle. It has some bloatware, but it’s never been an issue after configuring a few settings. I’m guessing if I went for one of the floor models, it’d have been a problem.

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