Elon Musk is doing his best.
this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2023
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I would love to find out that was what his end goal was, I hate the son of a bitch but that would be an Andy Kauffman level of commitment to the bit
After people realize they are continuously enabling the rich and those in power that are holding the pockets of the rich. But before that can happen, people need to stop fighting over bullshit like Target selling rainbow stuff. We as people only truly care about problems when they impact our own way of life. And that's why we'll burn with the planet. Nothing has changed and nothing ever will
Always have, glad to see you're catching up.
Many of us have seen it this way for a long time. I think awareness is growing now everywhere, but the USA is at a disadvantage because its people have to overcome many decades of being told that rich people are the most successful and valuable in every sense. The equation of wealth and success has been a core piece of America's self-propaganda.
People are disconnected from their own thoughts and feelings, reject them entirely, with zero empathy. "Life's easier that way". There is something very fundamental missing. I couldn't imagine living with zero empathy or insight or emotions, or awareness of my emotions. Those are the things that make life worth living ime. Appreciate suffering for the experience, but don't let it stand, get to the point and keep pushing. Evolution is a slow process, and I think we are a bit behind the times we've created for ourselves.
That's a big part of what makes me feel so utterly disconnected these days. This utter and complete, not just indifference, but active disdain for empathy and insight in every fucking matter possible. Freedom dies when I'm not allowed to make somebody's life worse for fun and/or profit. Also, anyone who considers another's needs is an emotional snowflake but they've allowed themselves to be taught that rage, anger, and hate aren't emotions? Way more "snowflake" IMO.
Well said. It's really surreal, sad, and part of me thinks, if I'm allowed to get metaphysical for a moment, that there is some greater force at work tbh. Like an eternal dance of life and death creating existence itself like positive and negative on a battery. Perhaps when, if possible at all, one side wins out, there will be a singularity beyond my comprehension. A consciousness singularity, and I believe that is what we are striving for here, and will alow humans to climb to the next level of understanding, being, and ability..to live peaceful and beautiful lives. I am an idealist tbh. I find it hard to get real into the material world, and perhaps that is the larger picture of indoctrination taking shape within me, that life is suffering, no hope...but I refuse to quit, and will make any small progress, and appreciate experience itself, and the experience of my fellow humans, animals, and everything. I believe appreciation is what is lacking in the collective human phsyche. Education may even be able to tackle that, but I believe such a time is far in the future, and we are seeing echoes of it in our minds, of what to strive for as a person and as a small part of the whole. There is something opposing this future. I hate conflict. I avoid it altogether. This truth, I feel, is abused by lesser men than I. It feels weird to say lesser, but you know what I mean. Sorry for rambling, I was in the mood to wax poetic, as I'm prone to do. I've only really lately started getting into actual political theory and omg is it boring af, almost like I've been trained to be utterly disconnected and apathetic to our current situation, and hateful towards my own self.
Recently finished reading David Graeber's Bullshit Jobs and in it he talks about asking the question who brings social value to society? A lot of rich people do not, especially the super-rich who largely get their wealth from exploitation and rentierism. Having a society that properly values socially-useful people would incentivise more socially-valuable action. Until the people defining what current society's standard of success is move on nothing is going to change.
I already see people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk as shameful failures of humanity.
When they leave Earth for Mars.
Who do you consider "we" to be in this question?
Unfortunately this will not happen that fast. The ultra rich are seen as a symbol of sucess because people associate themselves with those ultra wealthy folks, as being rich is considered a positive goal. The result is an indirect support to those rich people, who are celebrated for what they are.
I dare to say that 99% of people are closer to becoming homeless than to become an owner of a private island and a helicopter - and yet, people tend to think, that they might become rich as well (either through hard work or through luck), which is a more positive outlook than to think that they could easily hit rock bottom (the probability of hitting rock bottom is way higher tho). Because hypothetically, the opportunity for becoming as rich as those who they admire is given.
An anecdote: Back when I did work for minimum wage for a living (over 20 years ago), I had many coworkers who also did so. One time, the big boss (not ultra rich, but fairly loaded) came to visit the facility. He played some mind games and did some power moves. One of those was, that he parked his Maserati sports car pretty much in front of where our breakroom was, so that his car was definetly being seen by all the workers, instead of using the parking lot outside the facility.
About 90 % of the workers admired him for having such a car, and how cool he was and what not. Those people really believed that you could work yourself from the ground up to be as rich as the big boss. They did not recognize that he only could afford this car because he paid 7,50 an hour. And yet, he was celebrated for his "archievements". And after all, a Maserati is just a Fiat with a fancy bodywork.
You should have keyed it!
I had this idea: What if we criminalize extrem riches. It would deter people from endlessly accumulating wealth, if there is a legal limit. It will affect only the 1%. It will not be just towards them, but it is necessary. I believe its not the people who are corrupt, it is the power they have and its incentivis that makes them corrupt. Also, anyone who is currently extremely rich 💯 gained these amounts of riches through some form of exploitation (humanitarian or environmental). If you define exploitation as voilence inflicted, it would be more justified as well. This tiny change might force capitalism into a different direction or change to something different all together.
Disclaimer: I am no expert. This is an idea and my personal opinion, please take it as such.
We have an unhealthy obsession with profit. "Fiduciary duties"
I think the problem will solve itself when all the rich people leave for Mars.