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In the past week or so, the courts have begun to try to set some boundaries on the Musk–Miller–Trump administration’s early blitz of recklessness.

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This judicial review provides at least a small reprieve, hope that some of the administration’s most destructive impulses will be stopped. Or at least pared back. But even with the courts stepping up, and even with the reality of the administration’s ineptitude sinking in, this early Musk–Miller–Trump blitz remains very—maybe irreparably—damaging. Of course, there are a lot of moles to whack: the U.S. Agency for International Development and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau are being dismantled at an alarming rate, and the court system is not known for being nimble. The administration is betting, perhaps rightly, that at least some of its thoughtless, lawless efforts will slip through the cracks.

But even if the courts caught them all—and even if every court facing each lawless escapade said, “Nope, that’s not a thing”—still the entire process would be doing serious damage to our institutions. Think of it as someone spoofing your identity and going on a shopping spree with your credit cards. Even if the goon gets caught, you still have to go store by store to argue that the fraudulent purchase wasn’t legitimate and hope the debt is forgiven. And all the while, perhaps long after all the debts are dealt with, the torrent of uncertainty kills your credit score.

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[–] Freefall 82 points 9 hours ago (20 children)

We had their playbook with p2025 and did nothing. They started enacting it, and we still do nothing. We could have shock-and-awed them right back with prepared lawsuits and movements blow for blow, and nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

We know. What we don't know is why are all civil servants just rolling over, instead of applying simple sabotage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How would sabotage help when destroying the government is Musk's and Trump's goal?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (10 children)

Whose saying they are all rolling over?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The same reason most of us decline our ample opportunities for sabotage every day. Someone else should do it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Well, that changes, the more people do it. And I am not going to brag here about what I've done, but at least once a day, I do something to put a wrench in a cog.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

To add more context - I’m a federal employee who has received these Fork emails -

They always come out at night, usually ~ 8-9 pm Eastern. One came out on a Sunday night. So you show up for work the next morning and that’s what’s waiting for you. I’m convinced this is done on purpose, to fuck with us.

As Vought (perfect Bond villain name, right?) said:

“Put Them In Trauma”

They literally want to traumatize us. They hate us because for decades we’ve been the only ones to tell them no. No, Elon, you can’t fuck all kinds of shit up when you launch a spaceship. No, Elon, you can’t make the stock market go haywire because you were high and tweeted something stupid. No, Elon, you can’t make a deal with the Pentagon and then run to Putin and do something completely different.

Elon does not like to be told no, but Elon can’t go 5 minutes without acting like the entitled dipshit that he is, so here we are.

And so, ~ 2.5 million civil servants - scientists, healthcare researchers, USAID, engineers, doctors, etc etc, will feel his wrath because he can’t be told no.

I took a big pay cut for this job because I valued job security over money after growing up in a household where jobs were not guaranteed and my parents struggled. Finally I got there after trying for years, and now Elon has to throw a shit fit.

But it’s not about me - I’ll be ok, but many others won’t. And we won’t get it back without a lot of work, work that I’m not sure that we, as a country, are going to be willing to do. The brain drain and decades of knowledge capture will be lost forever. And that’s by design - now we can all go work for contractors with fewer benefits and no job security and help Elon to make even more money.

One of the Fork emails taunted us by saying that we should be happy to leave our low productivity jobs in government so that we could go work high productivity jobs in the private sector. (So funny!) I know that’s bullshit, but also I’m old enough to not let 4chan incels trigger me that easily.

I do worry about my younger/newer coworkers though, whose heads are spinning. So, I try to help them. I’m educating them about the union and hopefully giving them the tools to get through this and deal with what comes after in the best way possible, whatever that may be.

So the next time you have to go to some annoying government place with a long line and you’re tired and hungry and frustrated, please try to remember that whoever you end up coming face to face with may have just gotten another email trolling them and telling them what a piece of shit they are and they should resign from their jobs. Just give them some grace. Be kind.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is a great resource, and I hope it helps a lot of people.

My agency, and my job specifically, must be done right or people could get hurt. So things like renaming files or purposefully scheduling meeting conflicts aren’t options. I need to find specific bits of technical information to ensure a design is safe. I need to have meetings for safety reviews and make sure there isn’t anything that my group missed that could end up hurting someone.

I’m not saying these won’t be helpful to us in the future, if my agency’s current mission were to change in some way, but right now it’s the same as it was during the last administration. I will keep it in my back pocket though for when I feel it’s necessary.

Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Solidarity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

This site is an amazing start! Glad it exists right now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

Have you been passing around copies of "Simple Sabotage" and applying those tactics?

If no, why not?

[–] [email protected] 187 points 19 hours ago (14 children)

I'm a federal employee. You have no idea the stress my family and I have been dealing with since that motherfucker swore in.

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[–] credo 83 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Working as a federal employee comes with a set of golden handcuffs. You trade in a decent salary for retirement at the end. Firing people, or even asking them to leave for less than 10 months salary (maybe) is a huge Fuck You to those who have already sacrificed years of time. When you started your career- you couldn’t possibly predict something like a Trump train coming along to piss all over your life’s plans.

Who the fuck, with any level of competence, would ever want to apply for a federal position after seeing this shit show?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

Who the fuck, with any level of competence, would ever want to apply for a federal position after seeing this shit show?

People with enough money saved to outlast shitshows, who also intend to accept bribes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, this along with so many other things they have already done are going to cost us a shit load of tax dollars. We're going to have to pay market rates or above or offer sign on bonuses to get anyone willing to work for the fed again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, a Trump type person has been predicted for the last 25 years. The rise of populism was evident clearly for all to see in 2007, and only got stronger.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

35 years. Look up Some More News's video from 2020 about how 80s and 90s pop culture tried to warn us about the absurdity of a Trump presidency and how important it is to not let people like that in power.

[–] bassomitron 56 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Who the fuck, with any level of competence, would ever want to apply for a federal position after seeing this shit show?

That's the point. Musk et. al. are foreign assets with orders to weaken NATO and the US at all costs. They are successfully accomplishing their orders. And once the US's economy has spiraled and collapsed, the USD will no longer be a trusted currency used for global trade. Then it's BRIC's time to shine. That's their dream, at least.

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Not personally and directly, no, but broadly, yes - I do know the irreversible damage they're doing.

And here's the real key to it all - none of it is accidental. The damage is the point.

Their goal is actually very simple - it's to utterly destroy every aspect of the government that benefits the common people or inconveniences the wealthiest few, in order to convert it explicitly and entirely into a mechanism for protecting and expanding the privilege of the wealthiest few at the expense of everyone else.

[–] TheFonz 4 points 9 hours ago

They are all acolyte of the Curtis Yarvin cult. Scumbags all of them

[–] CuddlyCassowary 71 points 19 hours ago (15 children)

And they announced it and fully laid out a plan ahead of time. This should come as a surprise to no one who is literate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

The problem is Trump voters aren’t literate.

And there are a lot of them.

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[–] JakJak98 40 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It's crazy how bad it's going to get in the next few months. I work for a branch in the fed that's almost all remote work, about 10 out of 150 or so are in person including myself. I know I'll be safe, but my team? Section? Branch? All screwed. Then what's left, for me to be swallowed by a RIF? The deal was tempting because of the threat behind your inaction likely not mattering.

Hoping it cools off soon. It's hard to sleep lately.

It double sucks because I just got my spouse into a federal job (she got herself in, but I provided her resources, resume building, etc, of course.) But now since she's considered probationary and a temporary hire? She might be let go and swallowed into regret.

[–] rational_lib 46 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

What's annoying is the US cable/social media incessantly jumps right to the Trump/Musk framing of things.

The US AID shutdown has led to food aid stuck at ports as populations that rely on it starve.

A report on Monday from Paul Martin, the USAid inspector general, found that close to half a billion dollars’ worth of food was rotting because of confusion surrounding Mr Trump’s freeze last month.

How many americans have heard about the consequences of Trump's actions? 1%? How many have heard about Elon's vague and baseless claims that US AID is a big fraud? It seems every Republican I know has heard that.

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