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[–] 58008 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The game was acclaimed and beloved by virtually everyone who played it, and it's only becoming profitable now? Is it too simplistic to say that a normal release across multiple storefronts, namely Steam, would have made it profitable in a matter of months?

I genuinely keep forgetting the game exists. An article like this one will pop up from time to time, and only then will I remember about it. Epic is a black hole.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

But... but... Epic funded the game, this means they physically cannot put it on Steam! Nevermind the dozens of games on Steam published by owners of competing platforms, such as UbiSoft, Activision, Sony, CDPR, EA...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Epic probably bankrolled a significant chunk of development to get that deal. Whether accepting the deal was a bad move or not is really hard to say

[–] Lootboblin 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They funded a lot and take 50% of the profits. Luckily Control 2 and Max Payne remakes are not Epic published/exclusives.

[–] big_slap 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

can't wait for it to hit steam so I can play!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not happening, this is more than just a publishing deal - Epic financed the game's development and they're not going to budge.

Just pirate it at this point if you're so adamant about refusing to install the Epic launcher. The game is too good to rob yourself of the chance to play it over trying to make a point to Tim Sweeney.

[–] big_slap 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

eh, maybe I will pirate it and then buy it at a discount on console or something. I just do my best to not give money to wrong companies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To be honest I cared more about rewarding Remedy for their creation than holding a grudge against Epic. But then again I'm a bit of an odd duck around these parts. I don't even refuse to use an app if it isn't FOSS. Hell, I don't even run Linux these days.

At the end of the day though I just found Alan Wake 2 to be one of my favourite gaming experiences so it makes me sad whenever I see people refuse to play it.

[–] big_slap 6 points 1 week ago

hey that's valid! I'll play it one day 🙂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The angry Linux nerds showed up to downvote you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really hope control 2 doesn't have this problem

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Remedy already confirmed that they are going to self-publish Control 2.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unfortunqtely Epic said it will never be released on Steam.

[–] big_slap 20 points 1 week ago

don't you just hate it when money gets in the way of having fun? smh

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Well, Tim Sweeny can suck his own wiener then. I have hundred(s) of games on Epic and I haven't spent a dime there. And still won't spend, because I have principles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yarrr harrr fiddily de dee

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

An excellent game that was undercut by their exclusivity deal with Epic

[–] P1nkman 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which is why I haven't played it. Epic will never see my credit card number. I'd throw money after the game on GOG or Steam, and I think there are quite a few of us.

[–] comrade19 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop. Why hate epic more than others?

[–] WraithGear 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So, ok.

  1. They introduced exclusivity requiring people to use their storefront. So some would argue that Steam did that first… though only with games they made. This in of itself may not normally be that big a deal… if they didn’t rug pull customers of a few anticipated games into thinking they were getting steam keys because they were advertised as being on steam.
  2. The EGS is still not feature complete. This goes hand in hand with problem one. The exclusivity bars the “”free market”” from making a choice as to which platform is better. And the ceo blatantly said that he did not care about trying to make a good store front, he could just force people into a worse system with exclusivity.
  3. The EGS was against the very idea of a refund policy. Its owners were very very loud about it. As a matter of fact the ceo himself has caused a lot of the hate for the EGS though they have since given up and i think they match steam now.
  4. The actual user interface and customer service are terrible. In contrast steam has been outstanding in its implementation
  5. EGS did not initially allow user reviews, and wile i hear that there is some form of it now, they take a much less open approach to silencing dissent. As opposed to stream who still keeps dissent, but will give context to the scoring.

The EHS has given up on most of its open disdain for the consumer, but it apparently is going to take a lot more than a few years and free games to win over the crowd. And i personally REFUSE to have competing launchers on my system, and stream has the best good will with me by such a long shot, i don’t see how it would be remotely possible to get me to consider adding EGS.

[–] comrade19 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks for explaining

[–] ampersandrew 6 points 1 week ago

They lock up games under exclusivity contracts that others do not, which means you're stuck with their launcher and all of its problems or lack of features. In this case, they're the publisher, so it's a bit murkier. They've also got strong ties to Tencent, so some people are cautious of the influence of the Chinese government. For me personally, it's that they don't support Linux at all, and unlike GOG, I can't guarantee that they'll never push an update that breaks that compatibility. Seeing as my platform is unsupported, I'm not entitled to any kind of make-good, so I'm just not going to spend any money with them. I'll only play it at this point if it leaves Epic or if it's one of their free giveaways.

[–] Lootboblin 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Epic was the publisher and funded the game so not the basic Epic exclusive what we’ve used to see with many games.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Gee, I wonder if trying to force people to use Epic had anything to do with it...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Epic is the publisher. Of course they want to use their own platform to publish their own games.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup, but fuck Epic and their shitty launcher. I'll never use it even for free games, never mind exclusives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure, but that's entirely their choice to make. It's not comparable to when they bought exclusively.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sure I guess, but that's entirely my choice to make too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

I completely missed this since it apparently came out on Epic.

[–] Cossty 12 points 1 week ago

Kingdom come II was profitable after the first day. EGS is just a black hole.

[–] steeznson 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been waiting for a sale before grabbing it on xbox. Moderate fan of the original AW and absolutely loved Control. Remedy are amongst the most unique devs out there right now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I loved Control.

I absolutely could not get into AW, and it bums me out because it seemed intriguing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Same. I wanted to like the mechanic but the flashlight levels just feel grindy and repetitive. The rest of the game is beautiful. Control feels like you can recover from your mistakes more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You should try the second. It’s an excellent game, and you can very much get by without having played the first. Just read a synopsis of the first and you’re good to go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

They also made Max Payne. Shame they don't own the IP, tho.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

So glad it seems to be a stellar game. The horror might be to much for me tho

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I would have bought it but there was no physical release until later when Limited Run games did a limited run of the game at their premium price point. And by the time I knew Limited Run was doing a release, it was too late to get one.

Until I can do the following:

-- legally resell a digital copy of a game I bought,

-- be able to easily and legally backup and restore the digital games I've bought,

-- have legal guarantees that the digital games I bought won't be taken away from me,

my reasons for wanting physical copies are more than valid.