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Pete Hegseth, speaking to defence ministers at a lunchtime meeting in Brussels, said Europe had to provide “the overwhelming share” of future military aid to Kyiv – and recognise that restoring Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders was unrealistic.

The Pentagon chief said he was “here today to directly and unambiguously express that stark strategic realities prevent the United States of America from being primarily focused on the security of Europe”, though the language was notably toned down from a draft briefed in advance to the press.

That had said the US was no longer “the primary guarantor of security in Europe” and appeared to suggest a recasting of the 75-year-old Nato alliance, created after the second world war to protect western Europe from the Soviet bloc.

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[–] MothmanDelorian 7 points 6 days ago

That’s because the defense spending soent on Europe will be spent on creating the surveillance state.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Good. Now take all your bases off our countries.

[–] filister 18 points 6 days ago

Exactly this. Fuck off from Europe. Let's see how you will survive if the rest of the world decides to isolate you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

funny thing is that sentiment isnt exclusive to europe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

And all your dollars we keep in reserve as well.

[–] Sanctus 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dudes about to willingly just let NATO, which we made to contain Russia, not do its job. Fucken idiots. We lost the cold war.

[–] partial_accumen 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

First of all, this is a horrible move.

The Pentagon chief said he was “here today to directly and unambiguously express that stark strategic realities prevent the United States of America from being primarily focused on the security of Europe”,

Second, this means we're drastically reducing US Defense spending and putting that money into free healthcare for our population, right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trumps massive tax cuts for the rich from his first term are almost ending, he needs a lot of money to renew them.

[–] partial_accumen 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Trumps massive tax cuts for the rich from his first term are almost ending, he needs a lot of money to renew them.

The trump tax cuts for the rich were in the form of commercial taxation. Those were permanent and aren't ending. The rich get their cuts by reduction in corporate taxes in the form of dividends or increased stock value of the companies they hold.

The tax cuts for the middle class are the temporary ones that are ending.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well, sort of.

Except we’ll probably see increased spending directed towards Anduril and the like, as well as putting the money we didn’t save into the pockets of billionaires anyways, and then cut even more public funding because “how will we pay for all this 🥴”

[–] Docus 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

WW2 about to repeat itself.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Except this time we got nutjobs all over the world who don't give a fuck about Mutually Assured Destruction and they all got nukes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

they bravado like they dont, but they do.

my true fear here is when the worst of these nuclear assholes finds a way to deter their opponents missiles...

[–] PP_BOY_ 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

There are always weak men.
In the bad times they just hide more.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

US is too busy focused on persecuting women and minorities in the US