this post was submitted on 10 Feb 2025
298 points (98.1% liked)

World News

40530 readers
3920 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

The Vatican’s Caritas Internationalis condemned the Trump administration’s decision to halt USAID funding, warning it will cause millions of deaths and widespread poverty.

Cardinal Michael Czerny criticized the move as “reckless” and urged the U.S. to uphold Christian values of aid and compassion.

The cuts impact Catholic Relief Services and other humanitarian programs, jeopardizing decades of progress.

Czerny also denounced Trump’s immigration crackdown. U.S. Catholic bishops issued a rare rebuke, calling Trump’s policies on aid, immigration, and justice harmful to the vulnerable.

top 38 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 62 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Here's an idea: if the Vatican is so concerned about the fate of the poor, how about it uses its own obscene wealth and assets to step up to the plate?

Fucking hypocrites...

[–] FlyingSquid 13 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

When I was seven years old, we visited the Vatican. We were walking around and saw there was some little exhibit hall down some stairs sort of out of the way that no one was going to. So we went in there. Inside were all the horse-drawn papal carriages. A dozen of them, all covered in gold.

Even at that age, all I could think was, "there are people starving in the world..."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

That makes sense. Our generation had it drilled into us that our waste was shameful because there were so many people starving in the world. In my day, it was "children in Ethiopia".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I was seven years old, we visited the Vatican

That's a scary thought right there.

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 13 hours ago

To be fair, it was literally just to see the art. My family is Jewish but my parents absolutely loved art and instilled a love of art in me very early on.

Fun story- my dad, much like me, had very stereotypical Jewish features- the big, hooked nose, the curly hair, that sort of thing. So right outside the Vatican, we're looking at a souvenir stand, and the man behind the stand says to my father, in Yiddish, "what's a nice Jewish boy like you doing in a place like this?" My dad replies back, also in Yiddish (this is all second-hand, I don't know any Yiddish), "what's a nice Jewish boy like you doing in a place like this?" And he said, "a man's got to make a living!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They do use their liquid assets for that, but not selling the illiquid ones like art and real estate. I think it'd be a shame to turn cathedrals into shopping malls, but maybe it's worth putting the money to good use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Maybe just melt down some golden relics.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Excommunicate Vance then, you fucking cowards

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

According to his Wiki page:

"In August 2019, Vance was baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church in a ceremony at St. Gertrude Priory in Cincinnati, Ohio."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah adult convert, which unless you're like marrying a catholic, tend to be the weird Mel Gibson brand.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

anyone who decides to become catholic is doing it for social gain or deeply hates themselves.

catholicism is built on the foundation of "you're guilty, you're born guilty."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The only people I have known who converted to Catholicism did it because they wanted to marry a Catholic in a Catholic church.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

yeah for sure, thats what I meant when I typed "social gain"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I grew up in a small Catholic town in NM. Everyone here is Catholic, even non Catholics have taken up Catholic traditions. So much so that when I left home I thought all of those things were normal American traditions, having no idea they were rooted in Catholicism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Somewhat similar for me, having grown up in New Jersey. I was one of the only Protestants I knew; everybody else was Catholic or Jewish. I remember learning that it was a big deal at the time that JFK was Catholic and I was shocked because I thought most Americans were Catholic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

any example of a catholic thing you thought was just america

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Fish on Fridays. All of the school cafeterias here only served fish. Many restaurants did not serve meat either.

We had fiestas at the Catholic Church in late summer. The whole town would get together for the celebration. (This I learned was a town tradition, and not specially a Catholic thing, it was hosted by the Catholic Church though).

Performing Las Pastorelas in school, and on the city’s plaza at Christmas time.

Giving up something for lent. I thought this was a tradition like New Year’s resolutions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yes.....but no. American Catholic fundamentalism has little to do with the actual Catholic church. They're basically a renegade sect of the church who believes the new Pope is woke because he's brown.

They've steadily infiltrated the highest offices in the nation, but especially the judicial branch. They're essentially high brow versions of southern evangelicals, with more cash and an ahistorical chip on their shoulder in regards to America's relations to prejudice against traditional Catholics in the 19th and early 20th century.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Bergoglio brown?

He is considered woke because even in the church there are factions and he belongs to the one which is slightly more open on certain topics, or at least embraced (initially) a more populistic façade that pretended the church was modernizing.

In fact criticism against him is not an exclusive of US fundamentalists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Bergoglio brown?

I don't know his actual ethnicity, but to a lot of European Catholics anyone from South America is brown at least by association. It was kinda a big deal that he was the first Pope from the southern hemisphere.

criticism against him is not an exclusive of US fundamentalists.

I didn't claim it was?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago
[–] Kyrgizion 25 points 18 hours ago

Yes, that's the entire idea behind these actions.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 36 points 20 hours ago

Man if only the church had deep pockets and treasure to donate to the poor and the people suffering

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago

And? Dictator Musk doesn't give a shit about that. His sidekick Cheeto doesn't care either

At best this'll generate an "uh huh" whilst they continue to rob he state blind and setup his dictatorship

[–] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The world's largest and most powerful organization for guaranteeing pedophiles access to children while shielding them from prosecution is admonishing others about the moral implications of having their budget cut?

Maybe they can sell a golden throne or two to close the gap if they're really that concerned about it.

Fucking degenerate perverts.

[–] SinningStromgald 8 points 21 hours ago

Broken clocks etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, Caritas is a corrupt organization anyway

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It might be (I'm not defending them here), but even the Catholic Church sometimes do some good. What Muskolini, the Orungutan in Chief and Brocolli Balls are doing is so despicable and evil, even the Church is justified in their criticism. The level of destruction they're causing is quickly escalating to the levels of what was done in Europe during WWII, the Stalinist purges, the Cultural revolution and the massacres of the Khmer Rouge. They might not be there yet, but they sure as hell are trying to speed run it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Stop comparing him to an orangutan. Orangutans are intelligent and empathetic creatures worthy of respect. It's even worse than calling a cop a pig. You're going to give people a negative opinion of a beautiful species.

[–] Bricriu 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That little twerp with Brocolli-like hair. His on-line alias is "Big Balls".

It's this asshole here: https://www.newsweek.com/who-big-balls-teen-doge-engineer-edward-coristine-2027698

[–] Bricriu 1 points 13 hours ago

So many assholes, it's hard to keep up with 'em.

[–] frigidaphelion 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Tell him to stfu, we don't need pedophiles supporting our arguments

[–] jordanlund 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's not entirely fair, there have been no allegations made against Cardinal Czerny specifically, generally? Against the church and even other Cardinals? Sure, but not this guy.

[–] frigidaphelion 2 points 7 hours ago

Enabling is as bad as comitting