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According to his Wiki page:
"In August 2019, Vance was baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church in a ceremony at St. Gertrude Priory in Cincinnati, Ohio."
Yeah adult convert, which unless you're like marrying a catholic, tend to be the weird Mel Gibson brand.
The zeal of the convert.
anyone who decides to become catholic is doing it for social gain or deeply hates themselves.
catholicism is built on the foundation of "you're guilty, you're born guilty."
The only people I have known who converted to Catholicism did it because they wanted to marry a Catholic in a Catholic church.
yeah for sure, thats what I meant when I typed "social gain"
I grew up in a small Catholic town in NM. Everyone here is Catholic, even non Catholics have taken up Catholic traditions. So much so that when I left home I thought all of those things were normal American traditions, having no idea they were rooted in Catholicism.
Somewhat similar for me, having grown up in New Jersey. I was one of the only Protestants I knew; everybody else was Catholic or Jewish. I remember learning that it was a big deal at the time that JFK was Catholic and I was shocked because I thought most Americans were Catholic.
any example of a catholic thing you thought was just america
Fish on Fridays. All of the school cafeterias here only served fish. Many restaurants did not serve meat either.
We had fiestas at the Catholic Church in late summer. The whole town would get together for the celebration. (This I learned was a town tradition, and not specially a Catholic thing, it was hosted by the Catholic Church though).
Performing Las Pastorelas in school, and on the city’s plaza at Christmas time.
Giving up something for lent. I thought this was a tradition like New Year’s resolutions.
hah! fun.
yes, I find the christians are pretty good at taking things over. so it makes sense they inserted themselves into the fiestas to control them.
like the ~~winter solstice~~ jesus' birthday ~~summer solstice~~ the feast of st jean the babtist, ~~spring equinox~~ jesus' resurrection, ~~samhain/harvest~~ all hallowed's eve, ~~birth~~ baptism, ~~love~~ church wedding, ~~death~~ funeral mass,
Yes.....but no. American Catholic fundamentalism has little to do with the actual Catholic church. They're basically a renegade sect of the church who believes the new Pope is woke because he's brown.
They've steadily infiltrated the highest offices in the nation, but especially the judicial branch. They're essentially high brow versions of southern evangelicals, with more cash and an ahistorical chip on their shoulder in regards to America's relations to prejudice against traditional Catholics in the 19th and early 20th century.
Bergoglio brown?
He is considered woke because even in the church there are factions and he belongs to the one which is slightly more open on certain topics, or at least embraced (initially) a more populistic façade that pretended the church was modernizing.
In fact criticism against him is not an exclusive of US fundamentalists.
I don't know his actual ethnicity, but to a lot of European Catholics anyone from South America is brown at least by association. It was kinda a big deal that he was the first Pope from the southern hemisphere.
I didn't claim it was?