States rights was a lie.
this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2025
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new state law requiring energy companies to retroactively pay for the costs of climate change
They might have a point. Laws should never be retroactive, and if the law impacts nearby states (W. Virginia was one I saw), I can absolutely see them having standing to sue.
Soooo your take is "just ruin the earth with no penalties", sounds cool
I mean, that's one way you could take what I said. It's incorrect, but it's certainly one interpretation.
My point is the law can merely impact things going forward. They can set whatever stringent requirements they want on pollution, but having the law take effect on things that happened in the past is obscene. I can't read the full text of the article, otherwise I'd quote more sections, so I'll quote the US constitution instead, where it bans ex post facto laws (laws that are retroactive):
Article 1, Section 9 (related to federal government):
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
Article 1, Section 10 (related to state governments):
No State shall... pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
I don't know the specifics of the case or the specifics of the law, but my understanding is this is a direct violation of Article 1, Section 10 of the US Constitution, and therefore illegal, and since those states are directly impacted by that law, they have standing to sue.
They are literally killing the planet. You live on this planet. They're killing everyone. Mass extinction of tø every living thing on the planet, and you think we need fucking laws against it?
I say we have laws against retroactive laws. The same laws that protect you from being thrown in jail for getting an abortion or something under Roe v Wade are the same laws that protect these states and/or corporations (I don't know how their agreement works).
If the government wants to make a law, they can make it penalize actions that happen after the law takes effect, but they cannot make it penalize actions that happened before the law takes effect. Allowing ex post facto laws is tyrannical, and nobody should stand for it, even if allowing it in one case would benefit you in the moment. That's short sighted, and should not be tolerated in a free society.
Well those laws can fuck themselves when it comes to killing the planet. Killing rich people was against the law during the French Revolution in 1789, but that didn't stop them, and it shouldn't stop us now. They have been aware of the issues for decades, hidden the fact, and now we should follow the law? Nah, I'm all for the French invention they used hundreds of years ago.
You can be for or against whatever you want, but that doesn't change the law. And if we decide to change the law, be very careful because it'll likely get used against you.