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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

who else is utterly sick of reading the word qUiEtLy in headlines

[–] Redex68 2 points 6 hours ago

That's cool but I don't get the point if it's for residential. For 99% of usecases 1gigabit is more than enough, probably even 100mbit. Maybe it could facilitate new technologies that wouldn't be viable with slower residential connections, but at these speeds the bigger problem starts being the serverside and clientside processing of all that data. No service is ever going to let you get even close to that bandwidth for a single user.

[–] CitizenKong 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Living in a house with 40 parties, city is subsidizing optical fiber, only 5000€ for the whole building to be connected. Majority said no. So 50MBit/s is here to stay.

[–] Trae 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

125 Euro per apartment and they said no.... Wtf..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Per month? That is high.

I got a 25€/month from Vodafone @ 60MB/s, which really is enough for a small family

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Comcast keeps rolling out price increases

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My Internet bill went up $5/month.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Every damned year

[–] horse_battery_staple 69 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Getting paid by the letter? Why not just say 50Gbps?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

I think they just prefer saying things like "A thousand million" in their language.

[–] ggppjj 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would guess it's to appeal to the greater United States audience of readers, as at least in my experience most people live in an area where speeds are still measured in the hundreds of Mbps. This would allow for a more direct and distinctly dramatic comparison.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Obligatory reminder that the Third-of-a-Pound burger failed because people thought it was smaller than a Quarter Pounder, since it had a three in it instead of a four.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Reminds me of the informal study where people kept choosing pizza that came in more/smaller slices because they thought it was more pizza.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The system has failed us. At least a third of us but, to have a respectable shot, a quarter of us must revolt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

A tenth of a Pound must be soo big!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You get hundreds? I don't know anyone with that much. Although starting to see very expensive over 100Mbit options now, I use 4G as it's cheaper and more reliable which is somewhat amusing to be able to say.

Not like I actually need higher speeds anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Lol. I live in a small city that just got a fiber provider in the neighborhood. Their slowest plan is 500 Mbps up and down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Never lived in a city, 2016 was when I moved to a larger town though and finally got over 10Mbit, got up to a whole 30.

[–] ggppjj 3 points 1 day ago

I'm lucky enough to live over a business that allows me to use their Internet as a part of my lease, I do have 25Mbps. A marked upgrade from the non-business options in the area.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're probably lucky that they didn't use milibits as it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the way they write numbers is generally misunderstood in the west. Wan, the ten thousand character, and Yi, the hundred million character, are typically the crux of translating big numbers like this.

万 (wàn) comes up the most often and is the largest stumbling block for most people learning Mandarin numbers. In English, numbers are usually broken up into chunks of three digits. Because of 万 (wàn), it's easier to break numbers up into groups of four in Mandarin. In English, we split "twelve thousand" numerically into "12,000" (chunks of three digits). Split it the Chinese way, "1,2000," and the Chinese reading "一万两千" (one wan and two "thousand" = yīwàn liǎngqiān) makes more sense.

Not saying the figure isn't exaggerated, but holy shit it's obvious why it's translated this way in articles if you look even slightly beyond the surface.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What does this have to do with Tech Radar not using Gbps in the title like they do in the article?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Did you even read my comment? It's a 5 digit figure because they translated lazily and that's how it was written in Chinese.

[–] 9tr6gyp3 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, if they cared for that, they'd say 50,000,000,000 Bps

[–] horse_battery_staple 3 points 2 days ago

Fair enough. They could even do 100,000,000,000 Nps

[–] lordnikon -5 points 2 days ago

That's how you know it's was written by GenAI

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ehhh, in my experience, 1Gbps is a very good speed already, what would please me more is lower latency.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

For commercial stuff, 50Gbps is probably useful. Especially if you're not large enough to commission your own fibre cables but for the average person it's probably not too useful - at those speeds you're transferring fast enough to saturate even the fastest of commercial device storage.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

That's the main reason I haven't bothered upgrading mine any more.
100mbits with 3ms latency is pretty rocking.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't need faster internet. If they had a 2mbps connection for $15, I'd be happy.

Instead, the slowest is 20mbps, for $70. To watch youtube. Wtf do I need all the extra speed for???

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're getting scammed by your ISP. That's a terrible value. I bet they have a monopoly in your area too.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Area? Try building. It's written into the lease of the apartment. Even if you want NO internet, you still gotta pay.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

In America? Almost certainly

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're talking about the USA, not China. Internet costs in the PRC are much lower than the USA.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

0.2 Mbps is sufficient to stream 1080p.

Check your packet loss

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've enough with my 600Mbs, 50Gbs for an normal user don't make much sense, it's more interesting for big Companies with a huge data traffic or for stock options. For straming movies and downloading some piracy soft, are 200Mbs way enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is a lot of propaganda/sec

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is not a subtle deflection. The so-called great firewall is indefensible, as it would also be anywhere else it was implemented.

In other news….

Since the Two-State Solution post got deleted yesterday, I was unable to reply to your comment directed at me when I pressed Send, so I’ll paste it to you below. Ciao.

I’m under no illusions about Western imperialism in its various forms, nor about the slippage of rights Western societies have undergone over the decades, nor about the oligarchic tendencies baked into capitalism, because I have 20 years experience studying and writing about exactly those issues.

However, I live in a world of comparatives, not absolutes, and compared to those in the cities and especially countrysides of Russia and China, I’m incredibly free. Compared to Western billionaires, CEOs, and the politicians that they own, I’m not. When I say death to all tyrants, it’s a broad brush that knows no borders since the bastards can be found anywhere we look, including DC and China, among many others.

I protect no authoritarian regime no matter whether they pretend to espouse the myths of the free market or those of a worker’s paradise. They’re both excuses for a concentration of power, and having lived in various dictatorships as well as purported democracies, I know evil when I see it, and I see it all over.

And now comes the .ml ban. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

The so-called great firewall is indefensible

You're right. They should have allowed US controlled monopolies to saturate their market and snuff out any chance of creating their own tech industry before it got off the ground.