What's great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he's absolving Musk, or that he's criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,
'No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!'
Hur hur. I'd wish people would stop assigning hyper-competence to Nazis. They never were. Hitler was a drug addict and the trains didn't run on time.
Exactly this. My grandmother lived under the Nazis and she said they were fucking idiots. Exactly the same type of incompetent blowhards. The whole hyper scientific ubermensch BS in the cultural zeitgeist is so frustrating. I blame all the WWII video games and movies that played up the myth to have more interesting villains than the sleazy shit stains that they actually were.
It's hard to convince people that they've been had by a bunch of morons.
The strength of the Germans was that I.) they had a really good industrial base, and ii.) the traditions within the army meant they had extremely well trained soldiers. Both of these predate nazi-rule. For instance, Germans also arguably had the best (equipped) army in WW1.
Early Nazis also galvanized a young working force with actual socialist policies that guaranteed them good jobs and housing (before Hitler's multiple violent party purges, scrapping most of it for a fascist-capitalist junta)
And drugs.
My Oma survived WWII and the bastard Nazis. Opa , was a Wehrmacht Landser, survived the Eastern Front, including Stalingrad, and was later KIA at Monte Cassino. He warned Oma, while on leave from the Eastern Front, that we are going to lose war and you better head west when the Russians enter Germany. She was 3-days ahead of them, just missed the Dresden bombings and somehow survived the Battle of Berlin. Now the USA has the same incompetent blowhards running the USA straight into the ground. She warned me it could happen anywhere and she was 100% correct.
I blame all the WWII video games and movies that played up the myth to have more interesting villains than the sleazy shit stains that they actually were.
I guess Wolfenstein being banned for glorifying Nazis actually had some merit.
Hitler was a drug addict and the trains didn't run on time.
German trains still don't run on time. Can't blame that one on the Nazis, that's just a German thing.
Still better than Canadian rail. That shit is regularly late. Significantly late.
I had four long distance ICE journeys in the last two months. Three where thirty minutes late, one was two hours late.
Also had four long distance TGV journeys, of which one was about 20 minutes late, and one was an hour late, though that delay happened in Germany.
Apparently, DB is currently working on the infrastructure, but those renovations haven't been fully funded, and it looks like the conservatives will get in next.
On Via Rail Canada, my train trip was 3h. The delay was 3h. So it literally was double the amount of time.
European train delay is nothing compared to Canadian train delay.
That's just ignoring history. There are plenty of good reasons to hate the Nazis without needing to do that.
In the similar way, it's not necessary to dismiss Soviet Union's early modernization successes in order to blame them for their crimes against humanity.
Headlines are being headlines, I get it, but Fry was repeating a joke:
“I heard a very good joke yesterday,” the QI host, 67, told Stig Abell on Times Radio on Thursday.
“Someone said, ‘Musk is not a Nazi... Nazis made really good cars,’” he went on, before bursting out laughing.
Still a Nazi.
Just America shrinkflated Nazism so the intelligence had to go. Still 100% of the hate and malice America loves to eat though.
Yes. He's still a Nazi. You're not getting the point.
Fry is trying to provoke Musk into saying, "yes, they're good enough," turning it an admission that he is indeed a Nazi.
The cybertruck is exactly the sort of thing Nazis would come up with. It's the King Tiger of trucks - impressive specs and appeals to insecure men, but way the fuck too big and designed for unrealistic situations instead of practical reality.
It can't realistically tow heavy loads cause the hitch breaks off, and it can't travel far with heavy loads. Definitely not the king tiger of trucks.
Wasn't the king tiger notorious for breaking down constantly? Or was that a different German WW2 tank?
Difficult to make, too heavy to be effective, and iirc yeah, unreliable.
Also dangerous for crews. Sherman tank crews had a 75% survival rating when their tank got bust. I think the tiger had an 80% death rate or something.
I, as of recently, live in a place where I actually see those things driving around (and a lot of other trucks). They look like children's toys compared to the absolute monster fords and some other trucks (not to mention they really do age like milk from what I've seen). Some of these behemoths can't even fit in a single parking spot, it's kind of insane. One of those would be more deserving of this title I think (I don't know cars so I can't say any specific models I'm afraid)
Not apologizing and then immediately giving a speech to AfD about not being ashamed of "cultural purity" beg to differ. Either way, him being an actual Nazi is irrelevant. There are 2 options:
He is an actual Nazi and believes in the ideology, which makes him a fucking Nazi. It should be noted that his grandfather was an extremely anti-semitic politician who moved to South Africa because he admired Apartheid...
He did it as a troll. In which case, at a POTUS inauguration he decided to behave like a teenage boy as the richest man in the world and make light of something that saw 6 million Jews slaughtered and remains as a threat to the security of Jews around the world to this day. Which makes him a colossal piece of shit.
¿Por que no los dos?
I wonder where she is now....
Awww. She's all grown up, and seemingly successful.
I'd imagine Jeremy Clarkson might have said this on old top gear before he outed himself as a massive asshole.
All Nazis are assholes Not all assholes are Nazis
If Elon isn't a full-blown Nazi, he's at minimum a Nazi sympathizer. His actions at the inauguration proved where his allegiances lie.
TBF, Elon's cars are great at killing groups of people with toxic gasses and then incineration their bodies. Just because he isn't efficient today, doesn't mean he isn't working on being a better Nazi tomorrow.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fatal-crash-four-dead-lake-shore-cherry-1.7361751
Elon is the new Henry Ford. But I'm afraid we have no modern day Roosevelts to smack him down.
Henry Ford actually had some good ideas himself. Elon steals all his ideas.