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It’s rough right now politically in the US. A lot of people around me seem like they’re ready to give up hope. It makes me incredibly angry seeing Zuck up there with all the other billionaires, and Elon is a parasite that has infected the government.

I often find myself wondering how I can make a difference. How can we regain control of our world?

Idk if I’m being dramatic, but the Fediverse really seems like it could be our response to these fuckers controlling the narrative on social media. It could be more than just an interesting decentralized social media platform. I really think this could be a key step in reclaiming our democracy.

Am I being dramatic lol? Do you all feel the same way? I was kinda getting emotional even. Like we could bring real change. That gives me hope, which is something we are desperately lacking right now.

It’s not just Lemmy. It makes me happy to see all the Fediverse platforms (specifically activity pub based) blowing up.

Friendly reminder if you have the financial means, donate to your instance, donate to the Lemmy devs, donate to Pixelfed or any other social media app fighting big social media. And better than a one-time donation, set up a monthly contribution even if it’s just $2/month. It really helps open-source developers when they have a steady income.

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[–] gAlienLifeform 17 points 20 hours ago

the Fediverse really seems like it could be our response to these fuckers controlling the narrative on social media. It could be more than just an interesting decentralized social media platform. I really think this could be a key step in reclaiming our democracy.

Agreed, and I would add that finding ways to get nonprofit news organizations (e.g. ProPublica) and public media (e.g. NPR, PBS, etc.) to host and administer their own instances and to start directing their readers/listeners to those services would be a great way to advance this goal

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Using the Fediverse feels like a small step in the right direction. Big changes are built on lots of small steps. I would say move in the direction of using the Fediverse more, the old alternatives less, and think of more small steps in the right direction you can do. I don't think just using the Fediverse is enough, but it is an important step to take. Keep going.

[–] moseschrute 4 points 22 hours ago

I agree! Another small step - though I do enjoy the like-minded crowd - would be to get some different perspectives here. Even if I don’t necessarily agree with all those ideas, I don’t think it’s healthy for my own ideas to be trapped in an echo chamber.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

It's nice to see a significant portion of people (probably still not enough though) leave proprietary social media. Unfortunately, it took them extremely long to realize why that's a bad thing to use.

So that's one step in the right direction I guess.

On the other hand, there generally isn't much hope for humanity left because we haven't learned from past mistakes, haven't listened to science, and haven't ensured ourselves a decent future on this planet.

[–] PugJesus 3 points 15 hours ago

It gives me hope, but hope for a slightly better future; not for a cure for fundamental ills of online communities.

[–] Krudler 2 points 14 hours ago

The response is to tune-in, turn-on, and drop-out.

Start making things from scratch. Stop buying shit.

Opt-out.

[–] Jimmycakes 3 points 15 hours ago

Nothing gives me hope these are the darkest times ever

[–] serpineslair 29 points 1 day ago (21 children)

Yes. The fediverse is a pretty difficult thing to be controlled by a single group: that's sorta the idea. I see it as almost a refuge from all the bullshit. The lack of ads, tracking, content farming, censorship and control etc is refreshing. Here's to hoping the fediverse continues to spread.

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[–] rockettaco37 0 points 9 hours ago

I'm just glad to be part of a community that seems to have some shread of human decency left. That's not all too common here in the States these days.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I like Fediverse because I get much better engagement with people here than anything else

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I made a post about a blender project I am working on from my Mastodon and tagged the Lemmy community. This project is pretty dear to my heart, and I wanted it to be seen by many people, so I made the same post on Reddit.

I got 35 stars on Mastodon + 80 upvotes on Lemmy + many cool comments.

I got literally no upvotes on Reddit. maybe skill issue on my side but the Fediverse is, in my general experience, so much better when it comes to engagement.

[–] CMLVI 7 points 21 hours ago

It's cause no one on Reddit goes past r/hot on their sorts. If it isn't found by people in New and given an initial boost, it dies there. Plenty of stuff has died with 3 up votes while a repost that has a bot farm behind it hits r/all every other week. Reddit now is a feed people scroll with no interaction; bots with an agenda and a select few users interact with stuff.

[–] anon6789 6 points 23 hours ago

It feels much more social being here not despite the smaller audience, but because of it.

People have time to respond to me if I have a question, and I have time to give really good and complete responses to anyone that asks me about something I post.

[–] ozoned 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It gives me hope. We have an opportunity to level the playing field. So much hope that I'm actually starting a show to try to help folks get to know people behind the Fediverse! I truly believe in it and hope we can claw back the internet from the tech giants.

[–] moseschrute 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ozoned 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Calling it Fireside Fedi, where I just talk to folks around the Fediverse and get to know them. I have Gabe Kangas first tomorrow. He's the lead Dev of Owncast. Created a community [email protected] if you're interested. Fully Fedi powered. Livestream, Voss, socials, eventually setting up Fedi audio player as well.

Edit: fixed link to community

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[–] BoxOfFeet 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, no. Not at all. All hope is lost, this is just a comfortable place to die.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Having been around since the early days of identica/statusnet: no, not really.

It's always been small and a generally nice set of communities but it won't reach a large enough audience to matter. US (and to some degree) global politics are such a clusterfuck that it'll take more than some little servers with people discussing open source software and art or whatever to create substantial change.

that's not to say it's pointless. it's nice to have these little groups to focus on. it doesn't give me any hope but it does regulalry lift my spirits.

EDIT: I also dont think it needs to be any kind of agent or tool of change. Why can't it just be what it is? Groups of people socializing with one another?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Mark Zuckerburg was up there at the inauguration because he is one of the richest men alive, and he became so mostly because of the platforms he owns.

By using the Fediverse and not his platforms, I'm denying him revenue from ads and data, even if its an infinitely small amount.

Use open platforms, give your money to ethical businesses and keep it from these assholes. Money isn't the only way for someone to have power, but there's no denying that the net worth on that inauguration stage was the most concentrated anywhere on earth. Don't give them a cent more.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

The Fedi is the only hope right now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

it does. as an mbin cheerleader, its heartwarming to see the disparate AP based servers communicating with my server. lemmy/friendica/mastodon etc.... knowing that no entity could control all those products. the key of course is the protocol and maintaining ActivityPub as functional, standardized service.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It seems like the only semi-viable alternative to oligarch run social networks.

I am not American, but the behaviour exhibited by oligarchs such as Zuckerberg/Musk (and these are just the ones that get in the news) is not at all surprising.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

For me it does. I'm really enjoying Lemmy, and have curated a bunch of communities that I follow and participate in in a way that feels helpful, hopeful, and not toxic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don’t think you’re dramatic.

For me it’s about reclaiming my right to participate in online discourse on my own terms. In a way the fediverse is freedom.

I plan on trying to self host a mastodon instance for myself and rebuild my blogs.

I don’t think I’d ever want to self host a lemmy, I like being anonymous to a reasonable degree. But I like that lemmy lets me have a voice without acquiescence to reddits enshittification.

Also the community is largely great. I love the memes, I love the comments and discussions, and I like that I learn things from fellow internet users again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In general yes, but I would prefer if it had a wider variety of viewpoints on societal issues. I don't even always disagree with the prevailing circlejerk here on everything, but I would occasionally like to read counterarguments to it too.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There are a few specific people on fedi who do give me hope.

[–] SamboT 7 points 22 hours ago

Finally some god damn recognition

[–] obinice 4 points 22 hours ago

I don't live in that country, but while I like Lemmy, no, I don't have hope any more. I've not had that for a long time now.

It's interesting though, to see the US slowly turn into our enemy, and to consider that Germany will be one of our strongest democratic, antifascist allies against the new axis of evil when the time comes.

Thankfully I'm too old to be forced to fight in the next war against fascism, but I suppose poverty and climate change might kill me before then anyway. There truly is no hope left for me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

…abd this goes on anticorporate. Thank you very much. And yes, I think it does and we do make a difference. Keep it up. Organize and search for people like yourself. Instead of turning the naysayers one by one and burning out, find your allies and spread the word efficiently. Think of the ideal situation and make it happen. I‘m here, lets fucking go (same mission, different continent)!

[–] NineMileTower 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Fediverse? Maybe. It will stay small and not monetized. For some that's good.

Lemmy? No hope. Lemmy and the pessimistic world views here give ME no hope for anything on this planet. I want to leave, but keep finding myself back here doom scrolling. Some communities seems good though. The platform is good though and seems to be picking up.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The Fediverse and open source world do give me hope. But my worry is seeing people not adopt them. I know they aren't pertect but compared to the big tech alternatives they're a no oasis.

[–] 4Robato 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I mean it's really depressing even being in Europe honestly but at the same time it's a huge opportunity. It's time to take it :) Let's show them how decentralization AND open source can be a new standard! I'm seeing the same trend in Linux too and this is so important as well.

Also a lot of new projects to help decentralization are emerging, check https://spritely.institute/ which there's Christine Lemmer-Webber a co-author of the ActivityPub protocol :)

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