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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That means nothing. Nintendo and Valve are not in direct competition.

[–] BradleyUffner -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If deck sales actually dropped, it would seem to suggest otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Correlation =/= Causation etc.

Sales probably dropped because everyone who currently wants one got one over Christmas/winter sale.

[–] BradleyUffner 1 points 1 month ago

Right, that's why I said "suggests" instead of "proves".

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I figured anyone that wanted one would've bought it by now.

[–] LegoBrickOnFire 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am waiting for the day I will have time to play :')

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] LegoBrickOnFire 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unemployement will be the true salvation :p

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, be careful what you wish for. Our retirements will likely be short, but as long as we have basic mental faculties, they'll be pretty fucking cool what with Halo games & Smash Bros, etc.

And if just your memory is impaired, every game is always new. 🙂

But fr, dropping some wisdom on you -- I've heard the phrase you'll never HAVE the time; you have to MAKE the time for what you prioritize. And hell. If you've got such a nice, full life you enjoy & you can't make the time for video games? All the better. 🙂 I wish you well.

[–] LegoBrickOnFire 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you for your wisdom <3

[–] JeeBaiChow 1 points 3 weeks ago

But then how will you pay for it?

[–] JoeKrogan 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It will be back . Nintendo's catalog is very limited still by comparison to steam and they are peculiar about what they allow on their platform. I think its too early to say anything concrete without more data.

Also fuck Nintendo and their litigious nature 🖕

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Peculiar about what they allow on their platform

Have you seen the shit that the Switch Eshop is? There's just a much garbage on it as Steam. At least Steam doesn't have a seizure if I go to another search filter.

[–] evujumenuk 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Switch catalog was limited in no small part because the device just couldn't give acceptable performance for a lot of contemporary cross-platform games. That, of course, didn't matter for first-party titles.

Switch 2 performance is projected to end up somewhere around a base PS4, with better GPU but somewhat diminished CPU. However, it's going to have more memory than the Xbox Series S that teams had trouble porting their games to.

The Switch 2 might benefit a lot from this generation's extended cross-gen period. Add that to franchises like Fire Emblem, Metroid, Mario, Mario Kart, Pikmin and Zelda, and the average consumer is going to think of Steam as the "limited" platform.

A lot of conjecture, and maybe Switch 2 will turn out to be a monumental flop. I'm cautiously optimistic.

By the way, the old, selective policy that Nintendo exercised is pretty much a thing of the past. Just browse through the eShop for three minutes.

[–] MothmanDelorian 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Steam has a massive catalogue. I doubt Nintendo could ever match it given how different the goals of the companies are.

That being said Switch will outsell the SteamDeck because the Switch is shipped kid safe. You need to actually do things on the SteamDeck to make it safe for kids.

[–] paultimate14 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even outside of being kid "safe", the Deck is too big and heavy for kids. Heck, I know a lot of adults who have that issue.

It's also fairly expensive and while I would not call it "fragile", I don't the Deck would survive being owned by your average 10 year old as well as a Switch Lite does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But now the switch 2 is big and heavy.

[–] paultimate14 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Switch 2 is supposedly going to be 206mm L x 115mm W x 14mm D.

The Deck is 298mm x 117mm x 49mm. So still 1.5x the length of the S2 and 3x the width.

I can't find any reports of the Switch 2's weight, but I expect it to be significantly less than the 640g of the Deck. The Switch 2 will have a slightly larger screen, but is a smaller device overall.

But all that aside I still expect Nintendo to offer another, smaller version of the Switch 2 within a couple years. They had the Switch Lite, 2DS, DS Lite, DSi, GBA Micro, GBA SP, Gameboy Pocket, and probably more I'm not thinking of. So they will probably do a Switch 2 Lite or something.

[–] WordBox 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your measurements of the switch may be missing the controls

[–] paultimate14 0 points 1 month ago

I can't say for sure, but it looks like it includes the controls based on this mock-up from IGN:

[–] mipadaitu 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not cause of the rumors AMD started around SteamDeck 2?

[–] paultimate14 3 points 1 month ago

I would also add other handhelds like the Legion Go that are starting to use Steam OS.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Update #2 8:07PM: seems Valve got the message, and they've updated it. The Steam Deck on the weekly global top seller for the week beginning January 14th was actually 4th, not 47th.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It was actually the retroid pocket 5 announcement :-)

[–] x00z 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] mkwt 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did steam deck sales actually drop, as in the number of sold units went down? Or did the Steam Deck's relative ranking on some leaderboard drop to a lower ranking?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its ranking has dropped by 44 spots on Steam's top sellers list. Unless the sales numbers of everything else have shot up significantly, that implies that sales of the Steam Deck have gone down. I don't know how significant it is because I don't know how the rankings are done, but it's a pretty big drop for a 2-week period.

[–] mkwt 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, yeah okay. I forgot that Valve the privately held company doesn't have to break out any numbers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It would be nice if we could see that kind of information