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I quite enjoy cereals that have a range of different ingredients - like oat clusters with freeze dried strawberry or museli with almonds and raisins. Over time though, the oats rise to the top and the smaller bits get trapped at the bottom so when you're near the end of the packet it's 70% dust.

Is there an easy way to prevent this? It's hard to mix up the contents without breaking up everything into smaller bits. And shaking up the packet just makes the separation worse.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Least effort way: Store sideways/horizontally/perpendicular to pouring. Not vertical. Will settle to side instead of bottom and come out more evenly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's actually a very simple solution that I imagine would be pretty effective!

It leads me to wonder - is the granular separation more pronounced in a horizonal section (where you'd have more surface area for particles to fall between) or a vertical section (where gravity would have a greater effect)?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Particles are going to settle at roughly the same rate either orientation.

  • Vertical storage will stack higher and have a greater distance to opening on top, causing the not mixed well enough issue.
  • Horizontal storage more evenly distributes the mix for a more similar pour upon reorientation.
  • Flat on it’s face would distributor even closer to even mix, but that way lies madness and is not optimal for pantry storage. [Maybe flat on top of fridge might work?]

So the spectrum will be the same at any orientation except the effect will be more or less pronounced. With flat storage leading to the least granular separation while also being inconvenient to practically store.

[–] Hazdaz 15 points 1 year ago

Don't shake, roll the contents.

Rolling the contents will get the small pieces to move upward while not breaking the contents itself. Having a container which has extra room is important.

[–] zkfcfbzr 8 points 1 year ago

Assuming it comes mixed well at the start - you could try scooping it out with a cup instead of pouring it out, to minimize the agitation that leads to separation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's just the property of gravity. And the different weights of your cereals. You could individually package the serial into small containers at the start so you could maintain uniform distribution. You could shake the bag before you pour some out. But you run the risk of breaking the cereal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's called brazil nut effect.

[–] Arxir 4 points 1 year ago

Scientific name of the effect: Granular convection

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having the ingredients in individual containers is a good idea! However I usually buy a pre-made muesli mix and surprisingly it seems to work out very cheap compared to buying the individual ingredients (unless perhaps I was to buy them in bulk somewhere). I'm not sure I can beat £2 for 1kg of muesli from Aldi. It's convenient too, but then I run into the separation issues of course.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either you're missing a place to buy the ingredients in bulk. Or they're cheating you on something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If anyone knows where to buy muesli ingredients in bulk in the UK I'd be interested to hear!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it's rather inescapable. This phenomenon is sometimes known as the 'Brazil nut effect`

[–] eating3645 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just pour milk into the box and eat it all?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My friend adds water instead of milk... I think he's a cereal killer

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read this wrong that you wanted them to separate without turning to dust and here I was designing you some low impact centrifuge. Nevermind.

[–] ReginaPhalange 2 points 1 year ago

Thanos is right behind him, any time the cereal is not to his liking, snap snap.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could use one of those serial containers with a hole on the bottom. It's either got a button or a lever to give you a serving. Then you're always taking the cereal from the bottom of the pile.

[–] Amilo159 7 points 1 year ago

That just reverses the problem instead of solving it. You'll end up with 70% oats when you reach the upper level of contents.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Separate the cereal and store separately, then combine the perfect ratio in your bowl.

[–] Zeth0s 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Turn upside down the box each time you use it and store it like this. If you want to be super sure, each time take out cereals from opposite sides of the bulk after shaking the box

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shaking it upside down should reverse the density sort somewhat. Make sure you clip the bag closed securely first though!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I guess that would help, as long as I don't over shake it and cause the same problem in the opposite direction

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This would be a funny black mirror episode, a robot personal assistant struggles to pour the perfect bowl of cereal.

[–] ViridianNott 2 points 1 year ago

Disturb the bag (shaking, turning, and rustling) as little as possible. Reach in with your hand or a spoon to get cereal instead of pouring it out.

[–] Tangent5280 1 points 1 year ago

Anyone here buy the components separately and then mix them in proportion when you want cereal?