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Not only that, but Errol Musk, Elon's father has been quoted that he read the book and named Elon after this character. And Elon's grandfather was a member of a pro-Hitler fascist group in the '30s and '40s.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Seems like a no, unfortunately.

Because, if the publishing history for von Braun’s book on Wikipedia is correct, then Errol couldn’t have heard about it when he was a child and used it as the basis for naming his son – as it wasn’t actually published until well after Elon Musk was born.

(It should be noted that the technical appendix to the book, which contained the specifications for the novel’s expedition to Mars, was published earlier: in Germany in 1952, and in English the following year – however, this appendix as it appears in Project Mars does not contain any mention of ‘Elon’.)

https://www.dailygrail.com/2024/12/did-elon-musks-father-confirm-that-he-was-named-after-the-martian-leader-in-a-science-fiction-novel-by-a-nazi-rocket-scientist/

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Theres an update to in that article that says there was a rewritten version of the book that was actually published in the 1950s, but the author of the article couldn’t get his hands on a copy to verify if “The Elon” was mentioned in it. Some story possibly still holds up

[–] Jrue 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The article leaves it ambiguous whether Errol is embellishing or if it is true. From Errol's quote in that article, it seems like a weird thing to make up.

When I was child we used to build rockets, and we used to read the books of Professor Hermann Oberth and Wernher von Braun, and they had these illustrated – they weren’t really comics, they were books – but they had illustrations and they were in German unfortunately.

But the adult at that time that we were with, who discovered Bennett’s comet – his name is Mr Bennett – he would tell us what the stories were saying, about going to planets and all that sort of stuff, and we could see the illustrations and everything. And Wernher von Braun’s book I think it was – his, or it could have been Oberth’s book – spoke about that the head of the Mars colony would be called the Elon.

Now I remember that, but I never thought of it as a name. [But] then when Maye and I got married I was quite amazed to discover that her father’s grandfather or something had been called Elon Haldeman, which really reminded me of the stories that we had, and so I thought ‘well yes, I’d like that name for Elon because it means something to me’.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Errol is known for making shit up regarding Elon. The interview in which he mentions this is also from 2022 while the story about the coincidence is from 2017 so plenty of time for Errol to have picked up on it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Seems making shit up runs in their family.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

It's a direct quote of Errol who described it in this interview, who apparently read it in German. Or he could be completely full of shit like his son.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I am not sure why Errol reading it as a child vs as an adult means there is no veracity to the notion. Elon was born in 71. Could've read a nazi's book in 1971 and named his newborn after shit in the nazi book.

If excerpts were being published in magazines through the 50s you bet your ass copies were circulating amongst the party faithful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

So you're telling me it's just a "happy" accident?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Parable of the Talents is a science fiction novel by the American writer Octavia E. Butler, published in 1998.
...
The novel is set against the backdrop of a dystopian United States that has come under the grip of a Christian fundamentalist denomination called "Christian America" led by President Andrew Steele Jarret. Seeking to restore American power and prestige, and using the slogan "Make America Great Again", Jarret embarks on a crusade to cleanse America of non-Christian faiths.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Talents_(novel)

[–] Yokozuna 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So we're literally just living this book out.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I wish I could say that Trump read it like a handbook, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't read books. So Butler is just brilliant at predicting dumb men like him would one day steal office.

[–] Fredselfish 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So Elon parents read that book and thought it was a wonderful name for their child. Then they explained this to their son when he got old enough to understand. No wonder Elon is obsessed with going to Mars. He thinks he is the hero of that story.

[–] Valmond 13 points 1 week ago

Or that he'll get some fatherly love

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A man whose allegience is ruled by expedience.

Tom Lehrer is sadly ever relevant.

Don't say that he's hypocritical
Say rather that he's apolitical
"Once the rockets are up,
who cares where they come down?
That's not my department"
Says Werner Von Braun

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Too many of his songs are still going hard.

Especially:

  • Pollution
  • National Brotherhood Week
  • Folk Song Army
[–] slazer2au 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And now a current nazi is trying to get to Mars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You write that as if it were a bad thing.

[–] slazer2au 7 points 1 week ago

Would rather have it die of here, rather then let it spread to space.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I always thought it was a Hebrew name (I’ve only met one other Elon, who was Jewish), which I assumed was some sort of Anglo-Israelite crank thing (as in the people who claim that the “British race” are the Lost Tribe of Israel, and thus divinely ordained to rule).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A man whose allegience is ruled by expedience.

Tom Lehrer is sadly ever relevant.

Don't say that he's hypocritical
Say rather that he's apolitical
"Once the rockets are up,
who cares where they come down?
That's not my department"
Says Werner Von Braun