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[–] SGG 90 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So they can still collect it, use it for internal purposes, then after 5 years still sell it?

[–] Lost_My_Mind 40 points 1 month ago

Thats how I read it.

[–] Hominy_Hank 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Legally, only if you let them. Illegally, what's the point of the conversation on the first place?

The settlement also requires GM to obtain consent from customers before collecting their driving behavior data, and allow them to request and delete their data if they choose.

[–] SGG 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sadly I expect They'll just add a very innocuous line and/or checkbox to the EULA for their infotainment system. 99% of people will just tick it even if optional.

[–] Hominy_Hank 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That goes without saying. And I'm at the point where if people don't care enough to check that kind of stuff, then I don't care enough to worry about them.

My 2025 moto is "you have no excuse to be ignorant anymore."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you don't agree then you can't use the product. Companies do it all the time. You've said yes everytime. It should be illegal to hold anything hostage like that.

Don't agree with a carmaker using and selling your data? Oh look now the cars computer won't work for you.

[–] d00phy 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Exactly! That and burying their underhandedness in a 5000-word legal document presented to me on a 8” screen when I first start up my car. It’s an unrealistic expectation the people will read and understand every obnoxiously long EULA they’re presented with. They’re specifically written NOT to be read or understood by the average person, FFS.

[–] Hominy_Hank -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A car dealer is not going to pass up a sale because the customer won't agree to the manufacturer collecting and selling the customers data.

Sure with software the company can just prevent you from using their product. But a physical item such as a vehicle? Please.

Besides GM was order to allow people to opt-out. They can't force data collection on you like Google can.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Dealers don't make the cars. Dealers will just lie about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Your car will not work if the computer refuses to function.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Time to build an app that sends daily requests for people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I'm curious what the dollar value of this data is per capita. Imagine if you could simply pay $1 for exclusive rights to data collected by GM. Back in reality, they'd go "oops, we sold your data again and hoped you wouldn't notice."

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago

Uh... How about permanently?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Data brokers setting a calendar reminder for 5 years from now.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

GM is banned for selling the data.

They are going to give it away for free.....with the purchase of this really cool red paperclip.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

.... Weren't they doing it illegally/without consent already?

"you're banned from committing crime"

[–] toiletobserver 8 points 1 month ago

I'm sure they'll be closely monitored over the next four years

[–] NavySqueal 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn Chinese spy company /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

GM - Government Motors

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Cool, they can survive just fine for five years and then sell :/

This is one useless restriction

[–] ohlaph 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So... Don't buy GM. Check.

[–] mx_smith 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think GM owns OnStar, so many car models have this installed. I unplugged the OnStar system in my Honda just to prevent this.

[–] ohlaph 1 points 4 weeks ago

I am not looking forward to replacing my car when it's time. So much data harvesting.

[–] olafurp 7 points 1 month ago

Shouldn't be legal at all