Easy compromise here… ban smart phones, not cell phones.
this post was submitted on 16 Jan 2025
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How do the chartreuse states feel about it?
Ban guns first. Else let students call or text their parents when a shooter gets to school.
Me, going on 48: “they let kids have cellphones in school?”
The main beneficiaries of this will be bad or abusive teachers. How many videos have you seen of a teacher going on a racist rant or something? Now the kids will have no proof, and no way to shed light on the issue by posting it to social media.
Cell phones are essential kit these days that everyone carries and relies on. They should be integrated into the classroom. We're supposed to be teaching these kids how to survive in this society, right?
That's bullshit. If your system allows abusive teachers then the system is messed up. Also you're telling me that beside school shootings, no healthcare they also have to look out after abusive teachers?
Great country my ass
I mean, they exist yeah. I've seen plenty of videos of a teacher going off the deep end, who were fired after the video went viral. Take away phones and we're back to my childhood where nobody believed the students because they couldn't provide proof.
What should've I expect from a country that votes for a mentally ill criminal. Guess History is bound to repeat again and again.
It's a nice idea in theory but have you seen the world we live in? There's always some abusive fucks looking to exploit whatever weaknesses there are in all of the systems we have.
I don't agree with the other poster's bit about integrating cell phones into the lessons themselves, but I do think they make a good point about a ban restricting students' ability to expose abusers.
Though one way to get the best of both would be to put cameras in classrooms just like a lot of school busses do now. Eliminate or reduce the he said/she said as much as possible. It would also protect teachers from students that realize accusations on their own can be pretty powerful in environments that do want to prevent abuses and be good for kids who don't have bad intentions but teachers might feel a need to keep them at arm's length to avoid that situation.
It really sucks that positive relationships seem to be more rare these days because people are so fearful about either giving the impression of having a negative relationship and others can be quick to suspect closeness been adults and children has ulterior motives.
Cameras are an even worse idea.
Sure let's record every single thing kids say and do in school on crappy government servers with piss security, oh and let parents see everything they do that way they can control everything they do and say. I'm sure that won't cause any psychological problems.
Not that having cell phones all the time doesn't potentially create psychological problems itself, even before social media is considered.
Though IMO the way to deal with controlling and abusive parents is to encourage kids to talk about their home life because parents like that will cause issues even without extra ammo of seeing what they kid says when they aren't around.
In a universe where my kids are getting kevlar backpacks, you will never see me agree to this.
I will put a new burner phone in their lunch daily if it comes to it.
Are you a Bell 412 or a McDonnell Douglas MD500?
Nah, they can do whatever with the phone otherwise. But we literally have shooter drills and lockdowns on the regular because we can't figure out guns like literally every other civilized nation on earth.
Not sending them into that scenario with nothing but good graces and the hope that the police don't just camp outside the building again.
Probably more economical to buy the kid a tub of lube and teach them to keister it at that point :D
Seriously though, I fully agree. Even here in Europe, there’s always ‘something’ that can happen. And I’d want a direct line to my kid just in case.
In general I think cell phones in school are a bad plan.
In America when violent terrorists are going to be emboldened by Trump? And after Uvalde? I'd tell my kid fuck the rules, you keep your cell phone on you at all times.
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Wait for it in .. 3 .. 2 .. 1 .. say it with me .. "but who will think of the children" .. when inevitably there's yet another school shooting and they can't call 911?
It's pretty fucked up that there's a society on this Earth where school shootings are "expected" and that's the reason why you cannot remove mobile phones from the student body.
The question is, how many dead students is it going to take for this phone ban to be reversed?
I really am grateful that I am not forced to make those choices living on the other side of the planet.
Uh it's been shown countless times that the powers that be don't give a shit about children's safety in school shootings. Only thoughts and prayers.
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I'm not sure where I land on this debate.
What I am sure of is that most teachers would still have cell phones, so the idea that kids couldn't make a call to emergency services doesn't seem relevant. I'm sure a call from any teacher or other employee would be just as effective. Claiming kids need phones so that they can call 911 in an emergency isn't relevant.
The fact that we have to discuss whether or not kids need to have phones available during school because of school shootings -- that's the truly insane part. I'm no longer convinced that any body count would produce effective "well regulated" gun control in the US.
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