I wish, but I doubt it will be.
this post was submitted on 13 Jan 2025
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Something eventually will be. Meta will not last forever.
This one? Nah, probably not. Meta is undoubtedly going to censor, suppress, hide, and deprioritize posts about this. But someday it will.
Yahoo just gradually died as people started slowly abandoning it.
The same can happen to Facebook, but it won’t die with a bang.
This.
What eventually kills these platforms is "death by thousand cuts". Enshitification, controversies, legal problems will alienate users bit by bit. Competing services will then make some people visit less and less until they stop coming at all.
These platforms are competing for peoples attention/time which is finite resource.
But in addition to what happened to Yahoo, Meta’s platforms also use the network effect to keep users. Once the tide turns and the network effect is stronger elsewhere the userbase may quickly evaporate, like what happened to MySpace.
That's already happening. Posts from my friends are seldom, and progressively less meaningful. Most are just shares of some dumbass sponsored content. Conversation is dead. But this is a big one, Facebook has AI users now that can keep up the appearance of a thriving site indefinitely, duping advertisers out of billions.
I'm dubious about that last one.
Advertisers have ways of measuring which ads are effective. I'm most familiar with how it works on Youtube, click on a link in a bio or use offer code AGGRAVATED to get 10% off your first purchase, and they can identify which creator they're sponsoring generated that sale. Part of the point of targeted advertising is avoid spending money to advertise to incompatible audiences.
"Hey look, Facebook has 4 billion users!" "Great. Here, we represent McDonald's, users who click this link will get coupons for combo meals. Run it in the United States." soon "The McDonald's ad was clicked on 94 billion times, yet the coupons from this campaign were redeemed in restaurants a total of 164 times nationwide. Can you explain to me how you achieved complete and total failure to sell cheap cheeseburgers to Americans?" "Yes I can, see, practically none of our active user accounts are owned or operated by organisms."
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I genuinely don't understand the business model they're going for here. Which means one of three things: 1. Meta knows something I don't know and this is going to work spectacularly, 2. It's one of those engineering decisions made by MBAs moments and it's going to come crashing down, or 3. it's an Enron moment and within 18 months the name of the crime they're committing is going to suddenly become a household phrase.
Honestly, with the power these companies have now, it could realistically be all 3 of your options, and they would still profit immensely and face no accountability.
Unless you're myspace. Myspace was great, until facebook just suddenly existed, and took over. Felt like it went from never hearing of facebook in 2006, to 2007 myspace is basically dead.
MySpace was sold to News Corp for $580 million dollars. Then they purged everyone's accounts, all their blogs, posts, pictures, everything. Talk about not knowing what they bought. Serious WTF. Users could submit a form and get some but not all of their profile back. One year later MySpace was worth an estimated $35 million. It was the worst tech acquisition until Twitter. This all coincided with Facebook opening up to the public and becoming more popular. So it's not exactly that MySpace just collapsed, Rupert Murdoch killed it.
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What makes you believe Friendica won’t surpass Facebook?
I do not think decentralized social media will ever grab the masses. It can be confusing, which server do I join? Why that one vs this one?
Man, people got used to having the whole internet in their pocket from barely knowing it existed in like 15 years. There are already cultural metaphors for federation. People will grok that shit in no time when they need to. But it will take the network effect forcing them to learn it that will get people over the hill.
Sounds more like we would go back to forums.
I think "forums" is what Lemmy kinda shoulda been. I've had people argue against me at this point, but...
lemmy.nsfw and the other couple of porn instances are the only ones that are focused by topic. Everybody else tries to be a general purpose instance, which results in that "Which instance do I pick? Will it matter being on sh.itjust.works or lemmy.world?" issue and the "there are currently 94 communities with the name Linux, 20 with more than 250 subscribers and 12 that have seen some kind of activity in the last month" issues.
Lemmy could be used like a good old forum engine. Create an instance around a particular branch of discussion, but now they're federated.
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Because I have never even heard of friendica
I haven’t heard of Lemmy until the api changes.
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I've noticed a significant change in my Facebook feed recently. It's almost all content creator content now, which I'm taking as a sign that my network is no longer posting there.
Bigger question. Honest question.
Why are YOU still there???
Because Facebook killed enthusiast forums for most of my hobbies and everyone migrated to FB. Thats where the knowledge is.
Some countries insist on using Messenger and nothing else, until that changes I can't leave.
Can't Messanger be used without Facebook? Mine asked me if in wanted to do that before I nuked it.
My wife tried to delete her fb account again (Shes done it a dozen times). Every other time she was able to keep access to messenger, this time it said no, she would lose access to that too. I think this is their push for people to use whatsapp instead.
Because I have no choice. There are couple groups I'm part of, and they exist solely on fb. Even tried moving some of them to reddit like 5-6yrs ago, but it didnt stick. Reddit back then would've been better than fb... ultimately the decision was out of my hands.
It’s pretty good for buying/selling used stuff.
Honestly, the only thing marketplace sucks for is cars.
Ive only ever had luck selling cars on platforms that require you to pay to list. Marketplace just gets you an endless string of time wasters and people who want it for half the asking price.
Oh yeah, the number of people that drop off the face of the earth after a couple message volleys is unreal. Definitely frustrating if you’re trying to get rid of something quickly.
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Just don't use Social Media? Idk why people keep using this dogshit as if they expect it to change. JUST STOP FUCKING USING IT. You'll be thanking me later for the boost in mental health.
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Let’s hope so.
Until you provide an easy solution for grandparents to watch their grandkids grow up, meta will have a captive generation and a half.
Group chats? They've replaced almost everything I used to use Facebook for.
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Good riddance. Sadly I think it will take another generation before the boomers wake up
I think it will take another generation before the boomers ~~wake up~~ die.
FTFY
Seriously, why can't they just die already.
Many are, genx is now the conservative generation.
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