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They call it the ‘100-80-100’ concept. This means employees will retain 100% of their salary, work 80% of the time, but contribute 100% of their output still.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

It's only a test run done by a few companies, though. I'm a German and having a four day work week is still highly unlikely. Most people work 40h/week or more, from Monday to Friday.

I'm in the very lucky position to have a 30 hour work week. 3x8,1x6 and Fridays off. None of the people I know work like this, they either simply can't afford it or they don't have enough leverage against their employer to make it possible.

Also, the conservative parties in our political system are actively pushing against it, demanding even more work to compensate for our rapidly aging population and they will be back in office after February. What a time to be alive.

[–] [email protected] 182 points 4 days ago (18 children)

The Christian, capitalist and right winger parties in Germany will promptly ignore this and demand 6 day workweeks after the vote.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just as God intended, as outlined by Abraham Lincoln and Jesus H. Christmas.

[–] idiomaddict 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

~~Abraham Lincoln~~ Otto von Bismarck

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

That's guy's a jerk.

Source: Civ series

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[–] EtnaAtsume 75 points 3 days ago

It's getting rather tiresome to see every new report that the 4-day work week is a superior option delivered as if this is some groundbreaking new thing. Everybody knows it by now. The workers know it (not that they needed to be told), the C-suite knows it, the data backs it up, it's all there except the implementation...

I would appreciate it if further articles about this or instead framed as "Why don't we have a 4-day work week yet when it's common knowledge that it's the better option?" or "Our corporate overlords continue to demand a 5-day work week even though the superior way forward has been laid bare for all to see".

Of course, since those same overlords are the ones that control the narrative, it won't happen. But it's nice to dream!

[–] justsomeguy 114 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It's a bit misleading to phrase it as they did. Germany didn't trial this. A few companies in Germany did. How many? Well fuck me if I know because the author does their best to keep any absolute numbers out of the article. I'm all for reducing work time since our productivity has easily risen enough to allow for that (once we eat the rich) but don't try to sugarcoat it.

[–] MisterFrog 4 points 2 days ago

Journalists (as a whole) are some of the worst when it comes to referencing. "A report from organisation found..." yes, okay, what's it called, when was I released, better yet LINK THE DAMN REPORT.

Journalists, why you so bad at this?

[–] kerf 21 points 4 days ago

Yes, I feel like this happens when these articles pop up from time to time. Like, it's a good thing a few companies are trying it out successfully, you don't have to falsely make it sound like the whole country switched

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

all i can remember is vw and/or porsche trialing this a while back

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Few enough that I can't find anything about it apart from some forum. And I'm right next door. Not even my german friends an hour away mentioned it.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But then how are they going to be kept perpetually tired and unhappy?

[–] NocturnalMorning 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's the neat part, you don't! Wait a second...that's not right..

[–] Gammelfisch 7 points 2 days ago

...and back to the regressive USA. Elon and the lunatics would relish the CCP driven 9-9-6 work week.

[–] slazer2au 59 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Reports from the trial showed that the frequency and duration of meetings was reduced by 60%, which makes sense to anyone who works in an office – many meetings could have been a simple email.

You don't say.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I had to sit through multi-day workshops that could have been a one-liner.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I feel so many times that instead of having a meeting I could just write a email with a link to the documentation I wrote for the purpose of everyone in the project following it. People could read it when they have time and ask questions via email and I would answer them asynchronously and everyone would be up to speed.

In reality when I do that the email gets ignored by 95℅ of the people who should know about it and that leads to many problems because we can't align on how to run the project. And I get it I also get so many email and it's not always clear if they are important for me or not and I have so many things to do so I'm happy to ignore the not so important things.

A meeting, as bad as it is, forces you to take one hour out of your schedule and spent it in this specific topic. On top of it when we go through the documentation together it's easy to understand what parts of it are more important and which less, etc.

And because there are many people in my situation in the project each of them needs to create a meeting just to be able to cut through the loud voices in the email and deliver their message so that I end up with more than 50℅ of my day in meetings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

We got rid of our stand-ups in favor of a morning slack check-in in the group channel.

We even have a little bot that lets you input them at any time before the scheduled deadline and reports them all at once so you don't have to put it in in the morning (many people prefer reporting on their day at the end of the day).

This combined with a robust pull request system means that a lot of work can get done async.

We have occasional meetings but they're pointed and specific between only the people that need to talk so nobody's time feels wasted.

It took like 2+ years to develop this culture but it's worth it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

According to some studies they should call it 100-80-120 becuase they show people are actually more productive with 4 day work weeks but i guess well see.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Unless the free day is on a Friday apparently, maybe?

There's a lot missing in the article and nothing seems to be sourced.

No work sectors, no numbers and barely a decent explanation. I'm all for the four day work week, but this article seems unnecessarily optimistic?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 27 points 4 days ago
  1. no shit

  2. good to hear!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Only 100% of their output?

[–] workerONE 10 points 4 days ago

Same thing but faster!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

In France they talked about the week in four days, instead of a four days week. Bunch of wankers...

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