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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 month ago (2 children)

that's the entire point of monopoly.

unfortunately in the real world you still need somewhere to sleep after you flip the board over.

[–] slazer2au 21 points 1 month ago

Yea working as intended.

[–] edgemaster72 5 points 1 month ago

Get a few of the boards and you can tent those over yourself

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It took me way too long to realize how fucked up it is that you build houses on your properties and as soon as you collected enough rent money evict all those families, tear down the houses and build a hotel instead.

[–] evidences 55 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The best way to win the game is actually to aggressively build houses and never upgrade to hotels. I'm pretty sure that the rules as written don't allow anyone to buy houses if there's not any house pieces left so if you can get a bunch of the cheaper properties and max out houses you can stop any of the rest of the players from being able to jack up the rent on their properties.

[–] kameecoding 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also always buy Orange as they are tile most frequently landed on

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also dark blue at the end of the board for their one-hit kill chance. Basically the equivalent to getting seriously ill in the US. Can't do shit about it, but your pleasant life (if existing) ends right there.

[–] kameecoding 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Those are actually quite bad imo, very expensive to build up and people very rarely land on them, that's why I like brown, they seem to get more hits and very cheap to build up

[–] Hackworth 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd aim for the light blues. It's cheap to get hotels on em early. But honestly, even winning isn't particularly fun. Cause in my experience, everyone knows who's gonna win like 2 hours before the game is actually over.

[–] spankmonkey 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you follow the rules the game should take less than 2 hours unless nobody gets a set to start building houses and everyone refuses to trade.

[–] Hackworth 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh we played with ALL the house rules. Fines on Free Parking, substitute pieces for houses when they ran out, per-determined trading periods, all so we could maintain some vaguely stable hierarchy of monopolies that inexorably lurch toward the one at the top winning. I'm sure I've never played actual Monopoly.

[–] spankmonkey 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, all those things drag the game out. We did the money goes into free parking thing and all our games dragged out 6+ hours as well when I was a kid.

Played it by the rules as an adult and it went pretty fast.

[–] blazeknave 7 points 1 month ago

Correct. I have recited this in a million contexts over the last 20 years.. the first sentence in Business 101 textbook: "there is scarcity" and therefore all the shit that has followed

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

But you don't get UBI/collect $200 every trip around a month to keep the game going a little longer. So it's much worse than this.

[–] Anticorp 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's meant to represent your income, not UBI.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everyone gets it for "free". You don't have to be guarding the jail square to get it.

Maybe your job is to keep rolling the dice instead of flipping board upside down, which is only way you stop getting $200.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lizzie Magie, the creator of the predecessor game called The Landlord’s Game, was a georgist who supported UBI.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Sure, but the Landlord's Game was a critique of capitalism. The $200 was supposed to be wages even in her version.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Monopoly is a very boring game when you're just throwing dice and hoping to get lucky early on.

Then, two or three players have a lot of fun haggling over properties for a bit in the middle.

But once the trading is done and monopolies are locked in, there's never a reason to trade again and you're back to just rolling dice until someone goes broke.

The original version of the game had a "cooperative" mode, where you tried to develope the whole board in the fewest number of turns. But even that was largely "roll dice, hope you get lucky".

It's just not a good game, overall. Catan plays much faster and still gives you the bargaining dynamic. Puerto Rico lets you play a soulless land developer without the randomness. Tzolk'in has a way cooler board. And if you've got 2-3 hours to blow on a board game, pick up one of the insane 4Xers like Eclipse or do something more exciting like Galaxy Trucker for a madcap puzzle/racing adventure.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Monopoly is designed to be unbalanced on purpose. It's mostly derived from the Landlord's Game that was made to be a political education tool about the accumulation of land and real estate in a few private hands.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Monopoly is designed to be unbalanced on purpose.

It's not the imbalance that's the problem. It's the glacial pace and the lack of meaningful decision points.

[–] NielsBohron 12 points 1 month ago

the lack of meaningful decision points.

Again, that's part of the point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It can be played quicker. Players don't get money for passing go. That's socialism don'tcha know? And if you end up in jail it's for twice the turns as there are players. A few tweaks here and there make the game quicker and way more unfair, hammering home the point that the player who gets a lucky roll first will dominate the other players.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That doesn't make it a good game. They don't give it away for free at Economics classes, it's sold worldwide by Hasbro!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In a really cynical turn of events, Hasbro (or whatever company came before) ripped of the woman who made The Landlord's Game to make monopoly and made billions in the process.

The irony is too damn high.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That sucks. But the original point was it's a bad game. The fact that it's an unethical, bad game doesn't change that.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

That was the point of the original game though right? To show how quickly it becomes imbalanced and players who got lucky early on easily ended up winning.

Monopoly is derived from The Landlord's Game, created in 1903 in the United States by left-wing feminist Lizzie Magie, as a way to demonstrate that an economy rewarding individuals is better than one where monopolies hold all the wealth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_(game)

[–] MoonlightFox 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Spot on.

There is a reason that it only has a rating of 4.4 of 10. https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1406/monopoly/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Just like the capitalism it emulates, no?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Except monopoly is never fun at any point in the game

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ironically that was the original point of the game

[–] CitizenKong 19 points 1 month ago

But then the game idea was stolen from the original creator and turned into a profitable product by a company. Which is even more ironic.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If a guy named Luigi comes around it certainly is, for a brief moment at least.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Monopoly needs a Luigi role

[–] j4k3 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

::: spoiler New plan... better than the thimble and boot Start with the plumbing...

[–] TrickDacy 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of people already are. It's called "suicide" and "Luigi."

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