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[–] dance_ninja 54 points 5 days ago

Sharaa said Syria needed to rebuild its legal system and would have to hold a comprehensive population census to run legitimate elections.

A country with infrastructure torn up by war and people displaced from their homes. Sounds like a legitimate reason, but we'll see how things play out.

[–] cyd 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Weirdly enough, the Islamist formerly-labelled-as-terrorist militant leader is making quite a lot of sensible moves and well thought out public statements. Maybe it's illogical, but I'm getting somewhat hopeful about Syria's future.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh yeah absolutely. I think it's just hard for people to remember, but dictatorships used to transition to democracies all the time.

I do wonder, though, if it has happened to a country with so many foreign actors involved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The life of the Prophet Mohammed sas. is a great example of statecraft, going from a persecuted outcast in his own city to challenging the Roman and Persian empire within two decades. People saying Islam would not or should not be political are missing the key notions about how social and religious values are deeply integrated with politics.

The same holds true for Jesus, who challenged the corruption of politics and religion in his time and Moses, who is the O.G. insurrectionist liberator. Also Moses is the most mentioned prophet in the holy Quran.

All Abrahamic religions are inherently political.

One could also argue that all politics are inherently religious, creating false objects of worship, like money and the individual, glorified dictators or a twisted understanding of collectives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I for one am glad Jesus is kept the fuck out of my government.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Imagine people took the message of Jesus serious to stop hoarding wealth and give to the poor. Truly a scary prospect. What comes next? Treating the sick without charging them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I always considered the problem not to be any one part of the message or other, but the process. It is a bad idea to make a perfect, inalterable text of any kind into law, no matter how good it is. The legal process does need guidance from higher principles, but the best way to do that is with a constitution, which can also be altered if necessary.

That is why I'm glad Jesus is kept the hell out of my government. Because yeah, he actually does try to teach a lot of commendable principles. But Jesus also says that all of the old Jewish laws of the old testament still hold. There is some fully crazy shit in the old testament.

Meanwhile, Jesus does all kinds of stuff in violation of those same laws. Is it no surprise, then, that, following Jesus's example, Christians follow the bible just as selectively?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Afghanistan: "First time?"

[–] cyd 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Not really analogous, I think? The Taliban are and continue to be wackos, and the US-supported government in between the Taliban regimes was always obviously made up of incompetent crooks and grifters.

[–] nogooduser 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It is a little bit similar in that the Taliban also said that they were going to be more moderate. That didn’t last very long though.

[–] cyd 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fair enough. I think the "Taliban are moderating" narrative was also helped by the fact that the Taliban were being compared against fricking ISIS.

[–] weeeeum 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Running free elections are hard, especially when a lot of foreign countries have a lot to gain from rigging it (primarily Iran and russia). They need some time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Gotta be brainwashed AF to think russia/iran have more at stake or more to rig than usa/turkey/zionists. Who would even say such a silly thing? Two sides of the exact same coin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

sigh Fucking Russia ruining everything.

—Democracy doesn't work!

—Yes it does.

breaks the democracy

—See? Democracy doesn't work.

Really, those two empires can't fail soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Best case scenario: These peeps get a modern government vastly superior to our slavemaster system.

Worst case scenario: See Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea, and every other place that imperialism has constantly attacked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Where do you live?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Honestly, for a bit, it's probably best they rely on a more tribal mentality before they decide how to centralize power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The DAANES model is the best hope for a new world, i hope they are listened to

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I did a cursory web search for DAANES and came up with nothing. What do you mean by it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That surprises me, as I just tried the same and came up with it instantly, anyway it's commonly referred to as "Rojava" and it stands for "Democratic Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria", a de-facto autonomous regione in northeastern Syria.

Basically it's many self governing sub regions of Syria, governing themselves following the political model of Democratic Confederalism.

https://rojavainformationcenter.org/background/key-facts/

A video from anthropologist David graeber talking about his experience in rojava: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqfoJvD0Ifg

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, that thing. Thanks. I don't know why ddg didn't find it. It's usually pretty good. Wikipedia did find it right away. Maybe next time, I'll just skip ddg and go right to Wikipedia. Seriously, web search is becoming increasingly useless, now that powerful AI is being used to fuck with their ranking algorithms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Democratic Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria

Forgotten Fronts: Making a case for DAANES governance

(I just read about this now too so no strong opinion.)