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This is wild because I had never heard of this news anywhere. R.I.P. DivestOS, my favorite mobile OS. Anyone know of a project with a similiar goal of deblobbing android?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yup! I didn't use much of their software but I did like Mull. I'm currently mull-ing over what browser to use next.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I loved Hypatia, its the only floss antivirus for android

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Woah, I never knew Hypatia is part of the Divest team. Here I thought I was unaffected by the shutdown... I wonder if they'll keep the av updates coming, since they are provided by ClamAV.

Edit: Looks like the script that converts clamav to hypatia compatible packages is public, I'm tempted to run it myself and host the files on my own server. That way I can just set the database override link within the app to my domain and done.

https://codeberg.org/divested-mobile/hypatia/src/branch/stable/scripts/Main.java

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They said that they would stop updating the database :(

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sucks big time. I just polled the latest available update from the 27th, but I guess that's it then. Will look into preparing my own packages, if I'm successful I will try to host them on github or something and share the link.

[–] Tangent5280 4 points 4 days ago

This is the way

[–] Bz1sen 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not obviously. Fennec doesn't have all the same privacy protections that Mull did. I think Tor is the only browser left that has everything I want but I don't want to use Tor for general purpose browsing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

EDiT: The following is eroneous, Tavi isn't the only dev and the project is mainly maintained by two others as the replies to this comment say.

Fennec on fdroid was by the same dev, so dead too.

[–] Wilmo 4 points 4 days ago

Its not by the same dev. Tavi seems involved via the git commits but the project seems to mostly involve someone who goes by relan and another called IratePorcupine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I thought fennec was maintained by fdroid, is this not the case?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

GrapheneOS is a similar philosophy as divest, remove as much risk surface as possible. Only pixel phones getting security firmware updates are supported though

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

yeah for ancient pixel users like me it's impossible to get modern android... I'm using lineage for now and i'll wait to see how this plays out.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

https://grapheneos.org/build#build-targets

you could always build GOS yourself and use the older targets (and get the vendor files from the aosp)

It's more elbow grease, but its not too much

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

I know it's a lot of hard work but I hope a group of people pick this project up.

R.I.P. DivertOS.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I didn't see a reason. Did Tavi give one and I missed it?

[–] Lumisal 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I posted this comment elsewhere:

In case anyone is curious as to why, here's a direct quote from them (Tavi) in Fairphone forum:

As mentioned, it is the 10 year anniversary. That is a long time and I need to move onto other projects in life.

They also have this for those looking to replace Mull: https://divestos.org/pages/browsers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Oh good. I was hoping it was a "moving on" reason, as opposed to a catastrophic one. Thanks for settling my nerves lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

That's so cute! I work with an OS release from 2002. Like, the OS has been around, and we're just working with Major Version 10, until it life-cycles out at age 27, when we're on just v11 (11.4 today).

Maybe there'll be a v12, maybe it's not for another 27 years and I'll be dead. Who knows?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Back to Fennec i guess...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I didn't either.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So, I've been using their Mull browser for a good while now. What's a good replacement now that it's dead?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

EDiT: The following is eroneous, Tavi isn't the only dev and the project is mainly maintained by two others as the replies to this comment say.

Fennec on fdroid is dead too, same dev...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fennec is not maintained by Divested, but who they actually are maintained by is a mystery. I hear a mix of Mozilla themselves and that it's just firefox with different build scripts. The F-droid page links to everything firefox except the issue tracker, which links to here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I was wrong. Amended my post. Tavi was just one of the three Devs. The other two put in more commits than him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There goes all the good forks I guess.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, I was wrong: fennec on fdroid is good. Sorry about that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Thanks for the update. Good to know that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, from the announcement, it seems true.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

That sucks :/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd have to assume so, since it was developed by the same people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Didn't know about that. I hope someone takes over the project but being a browser dev is tough.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm using lineageOS. You can choose whether to add Gapps (google bundle) to it. By default there's no google anything. Most devices officially supported by the project work great from what I've seen. It makes old phones faster in some cases.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

IMO it doesn't go far enough with deblobbing and removing nonfree software, but for the time being i'll switch to it. Hope someone continues this project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

IMO it doesn't go far enough with deblobbing and removing nonfree software, but for the time being i'll switch to it. Hope someone continues this project.

Who goes far enough in deblobbing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Divest. They removed as much proprietary software as possible without making the device unusable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

DivestOS was a fork of it for good reasons. LineageOS doesn't offer the same privacy or security features Divest had in the first place. https://divestos.org/index.html

[–] RubberElectrons 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Check out calyxOS, only tricky part is that it's mostly for pixels.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] RubberElectrons 5 points 4 days ago

No, I'm running it on my pixel 3 right now.