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πŸ–• Fuck PayPal

And fuck Linus Tech Tips for intentionally keeping quiet about this after they found out.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Ltt didn't hide shit, they posted it on a public forum

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that not nothing but it isn't far off. They have a massive platform. It deserved at least a video telling people about it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Some very vocal people on Lemmy just love hating on LTT. I don't think this topic was worth them making a main channel video on, I think their forum post was good and I believe they even mentioned this functionality of Honey a few times on the WAN show. It wasn't a secret, and anyone who cared to do in-depth research on a potential sponsor could have found out.

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[–] [email protected] 249 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I said it in another post: if you see a bunch of influencers all suddenly peddling the same stuff, stay away. All of them can be bought.

[–] tdawg 117 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Or, just don't trust ads period

Do your own research

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or just don't buy shit you don't need.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do your own research is the famous last coherent phrase of the QAnon crowd. Idk what the answer is but that phrase will forever make me uneasy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How long are we going to let the far right keep stealing our words? It's a proud respectable cryptocurrency term.

[–] AlphaAutist 6 points 1 day ago

Grifters all the way down then

[–] tdawg 3 points 1 day ago

It's also something leftists famously tell each other Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay, all of these customer reviews loved this product!

Weird how formulaic they sounded though.

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[–] NullDrive 49 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Especially anything from Linus, they’re a very scummy group.

[–] Retro_unlimited 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What annoys me the most is since his last drama, Linus HAS to be the face in every video now! Wtf it used to be a bunch of them took turns making videos, and it was fun seeing everyone work on different things. He has to be front and get all the attention, it just feels weird now.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Am I the only one who, upon seeing his videos for the first time, immediately thought he was an annoying little pinhead?

Like, I've watched his channel(s) surge in popularity over the years, and this entire time I've just been wondering why, and the issues that have come out about his little empire since have only confirmed my initial prejudice.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their entire video is an ad filled experience of shilling not only their sponsors but themselves. Incredibly obnoxious and cramming in every YouTube stereotype from begging for likes and subs to clickbait titles and then insisting they have to do it so they can have their cake and eat it makes them even more obnoxious than if they just did it without wanting to be forgiven for it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's getting worse, I can't remember who but I was watching a video just the other day and their ad segment was the fucking ltt ratchet driver. You know, the one they supposedly made because they were tired of the market and the low quality rip-offs all the companies were just trying to make profit off of (it's a shitty plastic screwdriver for 70$, link to pic and it's being sold at fucking walmart now). They sold it as such a heart string story in the beginning, it's just another mini-wannabe corporation.

I don't particularly feel bad at this point for their continued reputation downfall and the people responsible. Everyone has their own personal story of their favorite company which has turned to complete shit (Blizzard is one of mine). They didn't come out strong but doubled down corporate style when everything started. That's fine, but anyone staying and putting up with the stressful workplace knows what they've gotten themselves into.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

That's actually a very nice screwdriver. Nice ratchet screw drivers do cost that much. I have one, but given where LTT is these days as a company, I don't recommend buying it.

I would be very happy if creators were able to fund their operations off their own merch rather than outside advertising. That seems to be what Gamers Nexus does, or at least heading that way. What LTT does, though, is use it as an additional revenue source on top of their other advertising sources. Doing it right means resisting the urge to consume more and more, and LTT is not capable of that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh please attack them on actual grounds rather than a made-up nonsense. The screwdriver is actually decent product if you care about that sort of thing. No one's getting scammed there, It's an actual product that's of relatively good quality.

If you don't care about screwdrivers then you're probably not interested in the product anyway and if you are a frequent screwdriver user you probably understand why it's a good product.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I have a few gripes with LTT but the screwdriver is legit good. A bit overpriced because of the branding sure but definitely not a throwaway product

[–] spankmonkey 5 points 1 day ago

I used to think the importance of leadership at the top of a company to be overblown since they succeed based on the work of all of the employees, but it is pretty amazing how fast a change to shitty leadership can run a successful company into the ground.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

They event have the stupid thumbnail stereotype

Soviet Womble expressed the feeling I have against channels like that very nicely: 7:56, in case link with timer doesn't work

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[–] TimeNaan 35 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Linus Tech Tips really is scum. Yet more proof of that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

OP isn't exactly giving you the full story there. I know for a fact I've seen a video on this. I remember thinking at the time "well duh".

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly I thought all of this was common knowledge at this point, back when I used Honey (many years ago) I saw its affiliate code in the address bar and thought "huh, that's how they make money"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I remember researching it a while ago when I was curious how they made money. If anything else, this just illustrated glee little research and care people have with their online information.

[–] TommySoda 199 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I never trusted Honey to begin with but this goes far deeper than I ever expected. I always wondered "yeah, but where do they get their money?" I always figured it was just a way to take people's data and sell it to data brokers (which they probably also do, let's be honest) but this is just blatant fraud. Stealing affiliate money from links and having companies pay them to purposefully give out worse coupon codes is just devious through and through. It's basically free money and everybody else, whether influencer or consumer, get fucked over in the process.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Yeah I always wondered what the catch was? The CEO was always posting on Reddit trying to defend honey and how cool they were.

Either way, I never trust any shopping deal plugins. The whole idea of them is sketchy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Can we make a version of this add-on that replaces the links with a choice of charity links?

Might as well do some good in the chaos of the internet.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A useful question to ask when hearing about a new company is "What's your business model?"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (11 children)

There is no such thing as a free and benevolent product with an advertising budget.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago

I thought it was just collecting and selling user data but while I'd bet it's still happening - wow, this is way craftier.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used honey for a while and it was working great for me with "exclusive" coupons and Cashback and then one time I bough a cellphone that was supposed to have $250 cashback. I did all the necessary steps, read the t&c, took screenshots of the offer and made the purchase. I never got the transaction to appear on their website. Sending emails it trying to contact them was futile (I even made an automatic script to send an email everyday to follow up). Fuck PayPal

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[–] scarabic 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess most people don’t have much knowledge about affiliate link URLs and how easily they can be rewritten to shift where the commission goes. I implemented SkimLinks on a hunch of websites so I’ve seen it before. Forum owners used to get upset about anyone posting product links in their comments because they night include an affiliate code. SkimLinks adds JavaScript to every page that rewrites those codes to the forum owner’s personal account. It will even insert an affiliate code into basic Amazon links that don’t have one. Once this came out, forums went a lot easier on Amazon links.

After seeing all this, the second I spot a browser extension that wants to get between me and Amazon, I immediately assume they will rewrite all the links for their own benefit. Otherwise what’s in it for them? This news isn’t much of a surprise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

The biggest issue that this video brings up is that businesses can filter out certain coupon codes if the discount is too high

[–] Neon 14 points 1 day ago

Literally just watched that. I agree with his consideration that that's fraud.

[–] jordanlund 85 points 1 day ago (11 children)

If you're sitting at a poker table and you can't tell who the sucker is, it's you.

Alternately, if you look at an online service and can't tell what the product is, It's you.

[–] CosmoNova 15 points 1 day ago

And even if you can tell what the product is, itβ€˜s still often you. β€œPremium” subscriptions for example might hide (some) ads, but services still collect as much data about you. Even grocery stores where the offer seems obvious are trying to bait you into installing their apps to collect data on top of charging you for every item. And sure it’s not relevant in this case, but it’s something we should never forget.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I have been using PayPal increasingly for online payments. Not sure why. I have heard old stories about PayPal but Honey seems really bad. Its basically a given that any fintech company are going to be dodgy scammers but PayPal seemed almost grown up and respectable. Guess not.

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