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🖕 Fuck PayPal

And fuck Linus Tech Tips for intentionally keeping quiet about this after they found out.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ltt didn't hide shit, they posted it on a public forum

[–] CaptPretentious 11 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

If only they had some medium to post the information, perhaps a medium that that VAST MAJORITY of their viewers use.

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[–] JcbAzPx 2 points 10 hours ago

They're complaint was that honey inserted their affiliate cookie even when they didn't find a coupon code for you. I doubt they knew the full extent of the scam.

Plus, we don't know what was in their contract with honey. They could still be subject to a non-disparagment clause.

[–] whats_all_this_then 1 points 4 minutes ago

I knew this was Douglas Adams by the tone but had to look it up to realize it was Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Time for a re-read!

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They didn't hide it, but a huge portion of their audience doesn't read the forums. A 10 minute video of Linus ranting about them would have opened this scandal to a wider audience years ago.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

And then they took sponsorships from Karma which does the exact same thing

[–] Retro_unlimited 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Linus usually likes to rant about it on the WAN show then they usually make a clip for YouTube, but weird he didn’t do that for honey, maybe he didn’t know how far the scam went.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

As creator that makes some of their profits from affiliate links, I don't see how that could be the case for him.

Seems more likely they had a reason to avoid beef with PayPal.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could have a non disparagement clause in their former agreement

[–] tabular 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

non disparagement clause

Not the level of a non-compete clause but that's a scummy thing I hope is not legal.

[–] JcbAzPx 1 points 9 hours ago

It's fairly common. As far as legal, that will depend on the jurisdiction and the mood of the judge.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Linus said it would be on this week's WAN show

[–] whats_all_this_then 1 points 1 minute ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

Especially considering he hasn't been shy about ranting about a lot of things from (insert latest apple thing) to "fucking eggshell"

[–] buddascrayon 8 points 1 day ago

There may have been non-disclosure agreements between Linus tech tips and PayPal Honey. They may have threatened to sue him if he went public. I'm assuming we'll find out the details in the next few weeks.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Some very vocal people on Lemmy just love hating on LTT. I don't think this topic was worth them making a main channel video on, I think their forum post was good and I believe they even mentioned this functionality of Honey a few times on the WAN show. It wasn't a secret, and anyone who cared to do in-depth research on a potential sponsor could have found out.

[–] dantheclamman 2 points 9 hours ago

They could have been exposed to legal liability to report on a business partner like that.

[–] tabular 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I don’t think this topic was worth them making a main channel video on

Their viewers getting scammed by tech they promoted isn't worth a video on their main channel? If they could legally do it I think they should have.

Some very vocal people on Lemmy just love hating on LTT

LTT have made mistakes (edit: and made choices/comments I would disprove of) but the dunking here does seem disproportionate.

[–] sardaukar 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And yet here's the scandal being exposed TWO YEARS LATER. Yeah, LTT couldn't possibly have handled this better... /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They told everyone and nobody cared, turns out people care if a YouTube video is made framing the same thing differently. Like yeah, Honey's practice is bad for the creator industry, but is it bad enough to bring it back to the people who took their money? No, I don't think so.I think this is more of an example of how easy it is to get the masses angry with a YouTube video than anything. It's good that more people are going to move away from this information harvesting app, but I really feel like the reaction and hatred is overblown and, at least for the hatred towards creators, unwarranted.

The way I see it, people still take money from predatory gambling sites, and if any creator deserves pushback, it's them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that not nothing but it isn't far off. They have a massive platform. It deserved at least a video telling people about it.