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"Why don't you call anymore?"
It's all a hoax, it's not a big deal, it's just hot out.
My family is from Iowa, where they've had record breaking storms 3 out of the last 5 years, heat waves lasting longer than ever in history, record cold, and to top it off, wildfire smoke for the first time ever. (Note that this is after they made fun of Cali for being Cali and being on fire). No, none of these events have registered as connected in any way.
Nothing will ever convince these people. They are immune to evidence and argument.
logic will never convince them because they aren't arguing from a position of logic. It's about conforming to the beliefs required to be part of their tribe and/or protecting themselves from coming to terms with the harsh realities of climate change. It's reactionary against a challenge to their beliefs.
You would need to first convince them to consider that their respected authorities could be wrong. But within this reactionary mindset, being wrong is disgraceful. So unless they lose respect for their leaders or manage to shift away from believing fallibility is disgraceful, I don't know if they can be convinced.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
maybe if you can convince them that global warming helps out joe biden they will be against it.
You see it's a conspiracy, Sleepy Joe wants us to keep using fossil fuels so the liberals will vote him back it so it looks like he's doing something! The last thing he wants is for us to stop using fossil fuels! I bought an EV today just to spite him
Right on par with the old, βHurr durr of course itβs hot, itβs July!!!1!1!!1!β comments. These are the same folks who, when faced with a polar vortex in December or January, proudly and obnoxiously crow about βglobal warming.β
"hottest summer on record? Give it a rest, they say that every year!"
Also I'm in the UK which has been raining and dreary for the last month so it's not getting as much coverage here.
"hottest summer on record? Give it a rest, they say that every year!"
That's funny because it's true. Also sad. Mostly sad actually.
They're so close...
According to my father in law: everything's fine, actually. It's hot, sure, but it's been hot before. The actual problem is that The Weather Channel has started to get political/go woke and push an agenda.
So next time it's so hot the power grid can't take it or your house is destroyed in a flood or forest fire, it's just that pesky Weather Channel!
Fire and Rain have gotten so woke
They complain about how weird and unprecedented the weather has been the last few years, but if I so much as mention the word "climate" an awkward silence descends. I also had a guy hint at some weird conspiracy theory about the sun recently.
Right? Climate is the average of weather, usually over 30 years. So if the weather is substantially different for a few years in a row it starts impacting climate.
This is simple arithmetic.
Nothing. They just talk about Biden destroying the economy with Hunter's laptop and Hillary's buttery males.
My dad: "the earth goes through natural temperature cycles, I've got some good scientific sources who say it's all natural and climate change is just scaremongering"
Guess that's another topic along with the EU, immigration, COVID, vaccination that I can't talk about with my family.
Makes it hard and frustrating to continue to have a relationship at times.
"Amazing dad, do these cycles usually happen in the span of a lifetime?" I don't expect you to say that, I already know his answer. It's whatever Fox News told him to say
Oh I did. He just has "evidence from reliable sources" to say it's all a hoax.
They don't care about the heat wave in southern Europe because northern Europe has had a relatively cold and rainy July.
The slightly less dumb ones now say "Yeah it's happening but we shouldn't fight it, we should just accept it" (and then proceed to complain about refugees, which will increase x1000 if we don't do anything but they don't make the connection)
The dumber ones say that it's "natural cycles"
It's all being done by HAARP. When confronted by sentences like that, all words escape me.
Friendly reminder that itβs not about denial anymore. Itβs about how urgent is the existential threat of tipping points and how radical and fast should we act.
One side says, letβs stay reasonable, letβs not hurt the economy, donβt panic because of the these crazy Greta maniacs. Source: We managed a lot of crisis in the past, sometimes itβs not that hot, lobby money.
The other side says we have to hit the breaks immediately or a lot of people are going to die. Source: Science.
They compare it to heatwaves from the 1970sβ¦
Boomers never left the 70s
"The earth has had warming cycles before"
"How can you prove records from a thousand years ago"
"It's all just a scam to tax us more"
Theyve changed from "it's not happening" to "it's happening, but it's the biblical end times and doesn't need to be concerned about."
So just more denial about it being an actual problem.
"There was climate change when the Vikings were around so it's not as clear cut as people make out."
In my country we've had the opposite of a heat wave, the worst summer I can remember with rain almost every day and temperatures barely making it above 20 degrees. He says that this shows the planet isn't heating up and jokes that we need more carbon.
"It's only natural" seems to be the go to.
The people in my personal life, though, are mostly just EXTREMELY wary of just about any information at all.
They are more comfortable putting shit down to some conspiracy, rather than looking at how awful some people are outright.
I don't think they want to admit, or submit to the hopelessness of the situation, especially economically. So they rather keep themselves busy with petty bs.
Mostly "There have always been hot Sommers."
No idea, I've either changed their minds or stopped talking to them.
"I'm following the real scientist. They're called climatists and they just all banded together and said 'stop all this bullshit reporting' to the mainstream media!"
My soul left my body and I died.
I donβt have climate change denialists in my life. Thatβs usually indicative of other beliefs and values that donβt jive with mine, and we end up being incompatible as friends.
I never really knew anyone that would straight up deny science. I mean i've met people before that are that stupid but they were never in my life.
I have expelled them so I do not know.
They would rather make up for lies than admit they are wrong
I do not have climate change deniers as friends because idiots cannot be my friend.
By now it's pretty obvious what is happening and what probably will happen. The ones unable to understand will inevitably have a hard time and a lower chance of passing on their genes which is fine by me.