Man hopefully they just mercilessly rake companies that don’t support Linux because of kernel level anticheat over the fires as well. We need more advocacy in this space I think (and honestly I’d like it if kernel level anticheat was banned from steam on account of security).
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Thank you for linking directly to the relevant segment of the video. Steve and his team do good work; I just wish they would make more of their findings available in text format.
Aside from GN Steve's site and HUB Steve's techspot articles do any other PC hardware channels do any text content at all?
I think they do a pretty good job of that, here's recent B580 review, for example. I'm guessing they'll post something once they figure out how they'll do Linux testing.
It will be great to see more PC hardware reviews with Linux in mind.
Does SteamOS offer something significant over other GNU+Linux distributions? Waiting for it to release as a catalyst to start including Linux seems a bit odd. I hope it won't be like waiting for Half Life 3.
Does SteamOS offer something significant over other GNU+Linux distributions?
It's pre-installed on the device and pre-configured. If you can configure and troubleshoot a GNU+Linux system I don't think it has anything unique to offer to you. The thing where it boots directly into Steam big picture mode should be implementable on other distros as well. But most people can't or don't want to learn how to set up a Linux distro so it's actually a big deal for the average gamer. It's also made by a big corporation that people already trust, which might be something Gamers Nexus feels more comfortable implicitly endorsing by including it as a platform for their benchmarks.
GN could pick any Linux distro and get metrics but they'll want to be consistent and pick what will be most relevant.
For most people SteamOS will be the pick when moving away from windows pretty much entirely because it's "Valve's" OS, who are a known entity compared to "whoever makes this Bazzite thing" (or whatever other distro). This will give them more confidence to switch as they are familiar with/trust Valve to some extent and know that they're going to make sure their os works and can play games as well as can be expected on Linux. Obviously we know you can do it on other distros but switching your OS is a big change and people will want more assurance.
GN could cover performance on other distros but I think that would probably just be noise to people who are on the fence/not that interested compared to "here's how things work on Valve's SteamOS". (Also probably just provides a clear starting point and direction for GN)
Exactly this. When my brother has a problem with Windows, I just tell him this.
He doesn't let me install linux on his PC, but when I told him that Valve is coming with their own Linux distro, he said that he will try that one when it comes out.
*Of course I try to fix his windows problem when I can.
I could see him doing a deep dive video testing across several distros at some point.
That would definitely make sense for it's own video but I could see them wanting to focus on just SteamOS if they plan on having it be a regular stat when they do benchmarks
Honestly, the only outstanding thing about it is that it boots directly into Steam Big Picture with tight integration into the Stem Deck controls. Everything else is more or less standard Linux. (apart from some Deck-specific drivers that haven't been upstreamed yet)
But the standard Linux parts are great because it means that it can (and is) easily copied into other distros and that you can also use a standard Linux distro on the Deck.
So I'd say it's only suited for consoles where you don't need a full fledged desktop.
It's immutable too, no?
Yeah, but there are tons of those.
I feel like that's good for the wrong reasons.
I hope GN complains about how certain things that should have been fixed years ago are still broken because of bike shedding.
It is a weird decision to me though, because as much as I like Linux, the Linux desktop isn't at all a stable platform. Your experience can be vastly different depending on what distro, mesa version, display server, driver, etc you use. So in a way, I wonder if they'll bother to show "the best case scenario" or just go with what's most popular.
Hot take: If they are doing it, they should use what's most popular and if it's bad, sh!t on it, as that seems to be the only way to get long standing issues fixed...(look at pop!os and KDE as an example)
I mean, Steve said they were looking into it specifically if SteamOS comes to the desktop market. So that is the benchmark they would use, and they use consistent sets of test hardware across their product category benchmarks. It's not a secret what their methodology is/would look like. And they have a reputation for calling out shit when they see it. No offense, but your hot take seems pretty ice cold to me
Why wouldn't they? It's an important metric.
I would love this.
They should of have been doing this from a start