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Noodles: is a tamale a noodle? (self.nostupidquestions)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by zeppo to c/nostupidquestions
 

I don't really have a question but I want to talk about noodles, please. Is a tamale a noodle or a sandwich?

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[–] exterstellar 86 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Technically, a tamale is a calzone according to the cube rule.

[–] bizzle 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I understand the cube rule, I just don't think I can really subscribe to it. Calling a bowl of lucky charms nachos is inaccurate, it's clearly a soup.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Exactly, cube rule is inconsistent and needlessly complicated. Both are salads

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[–] zeppo 19 points 2 years ago

woah, this is why i have reached out to The Internet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Didn’t know I could be more upset about this argument but this rule really takes the ~~cake~~ sandwich. Though for this specific instance, I agree it’s a calzone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I love how "toast" includes sushi as an example but sushi doesn't

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh this is fantastic! Thanks for this.

Also, first kbin/post-Reddit post. Woo.

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[–] j4k3 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does this mean I can get thin crust tamales in New York, and grease death tamales in Chicago

[–] ohmyiv 7 points 2 years ago

In L.A., there's everything from grease death and masa bombs to thin crust and dry. Husk wrapped or banana leaf wrapped. Savory or sweet. We got it all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn’t the whole point of “toast” that it’s bread that is toasted? How can sushi, an undeniable raw food be “toast”? I’ll accept the cube rule, but toast needs a new classification.,

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Tamales are open on one side when they're steamed. That makes them quiche by this rule.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

What the...

[–] metostopholes 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd say a tamale is a dumpling.

[–] zeppo 11 points 2 years ago

nixtamalized corn dumpling: this is proper and you are righteous

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[–] tallwookie 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

closer to a pie, as pies as have filling.

noodles don't have filling

[–] zeppo 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

what is ravioli? And, is ravioli a dumpling?

[–] TragicNotCute 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I would say ravioli is not a noodle, and could be called a dumpling, yes.

[–] macarthur_park 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

David Chang argues that ravioli are dumplings on Ugly Delicious.

I’m inclined to agree in that dumplings and ravioli are the same general idea implemented by different culinary traditions.

[–] zeppo 2 points 2 years ago

don;'t leave out tamales. It's the same thing, just with masa.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Italians would lynch you for mixing linguini and spaghetti, but they don't pause for a second when referring to dumplings as Chinese ravioli.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Technically, ravioli is a stuffed pasta the same as tortellini. That would make it a noodle but I don't believe the same can be said for tamales. Pasta (Italian noodles) is made from a dough of semolina flour, olive oil, and eggs that is rolled into sheets or extruded into shapes. It is then cooked by boiling in water.

I don't think the dough(?) of a tamale is anywhere near the same.

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[–] j4k3 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A tamale is most definitely corn bread

[–] zeppo 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

stuffed corn bread? but let's also make the masa distinction

[–] j4k3 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends on the country of origin

[–] zeppo 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am in United State, Southwestern Region

[–] j4k3 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only place that might call themselves a United State is Texas.

[–] zeppo 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] j4k3 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay Texas. Don't go trying to annex another Mexico again. We don't need a New Alamo.

[–] zeppo 3 points 2 years ago

we should just take over west texas. I mean, HEB is pretty good and you have a lot more meth than we do.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This type of food taxonomy is always fascinating and disturbing, as it tends to spawn even more unhinged classifications (ravioli is a dumpling. A bowl of cereal is a salad).

That being said, the most politically neutral take would be that tamales are a pie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Are you saying ravioli is not a dumpling?

I am joining you in the tamales are a pie camp though.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Neither! A tamale is corn masa with typically a meat filling. You could consider it a dumpling or a pie. Noodles do not have a stuffing and sandwiches tend to have a distinct layers. I would consider a taco or maybe a gordita a sandwich, but not a tamale. Although this does make me wonder, what would a burrito be classified as? (not counting wrap because that is too easy)

[–] zeppo 5 points 2 years ago

A burrito is um... a form of a tamale. Actually, it's sushi

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"Sometimes a tamale is just a tamale" - Sigmund Freud Probably

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[–] BaldManGoomba 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As a Mexican, I am very disturbed by this question. It's not stupid (that doesn't exist in this community), it's just disturbing xD

No, a tamale is not a noodle. Noodles don't have fillings, are longer, and thinner. It's like asking if ravioli is a noodle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone from the U.S. who grew up eating Mexican food in Texas, I agree. It is disturbing. The filling is very important to a tamal. They aren't bendy or thin either. Noodles are thin and bendy

[–] zeppo 3 points 2 years ago

i am new mexico af and i respect your carne guisada, but really. NM food kills it. Please come over to Santa Fe and check out green chile Carne Adovada. "Texas" lol

[–] zeppo 2 points 2 years ago
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[–] 4am 5 points 2 years ago

A tamale is a pop tart, obviously

[–] jerrimu 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean kinda? We need to decide how a noodle and a dumpling differ.

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[–] timelighter 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am angry at the very notion that a tamale could be a noodle.

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[–] zeppo 3 points 2 years ago

I created a new video: What is a Noodle? Disclaimer: I didn't.

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