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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The oldest areas on the east coast were settled before gas lines were a thing and electricity existed. So they use oil unless it’s a big city that paid to have gas lines installed.

This is why cities that grew a lot after gas was industrialized primarily have natural gas.

Remote areas will use oil, propane, or wood because they can be delivered by truck and heat pumps are a pretty new technology that hasn’t worked well in cold areas until recently.

The south has minimal heat requirements so they can get by with electric which is cheap to install but not efficient enough to provide primary heat in cold areas.

Also, southern homes generally have air conditioning so adding a reversing valve or set of heater coils is pretty easy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

The answer boils down to: Availability 🌈

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

One reason is bad laws. I would love to replace my natural gas boiler and steam radiators with an electric heat pump system. It would be more efficient, cheaper to run, be able use solar power, and keep my house more comfortable.

But state law requires that buildings meet a specific efficiency requirement, which my house does not meet because it is 170 years old. I understand why they have that requirement for new construction, but it is stupid to not have an exception for old buildings.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

I was looking at what I'd need to get a heat pump installed yesterday, before the state website even started discussing the different types there were links to weatherization programs and efficiency requirements. My house is about 70 years old, even with insulation updates in the 00s it's a drafty bitch

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Climate. You're not going to need gas heating in Florida when it's cold for only a short time of the year.

[–] Soup 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Electric heating also works great basically everywhere else, too. Actually climate has very little to do with it in most cases and if there’s any non-manipulative reason(gas companies are really bad for this) it’s to do with what infrastructure makes the most sense.

In places like Québec we have electric heating because hydro makes electricity pretty cheap. Up north in Nunavut they will often have big tanks on the property and a truck will come by to refill them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Infrastructure definitely contributes to what's going to be used. Good call.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Makes sense for Florida! I expected the opposite on the West coast though

[–] jqubed 1 points 1 hour ago

Do people in Southern California even need to heat their homes? Even in the Pacific Northwest close to the ocean (like Portland/Seattle) it doesn’t get below freezing much unless you’re at a higher elevation, so electric can still be adequate.

[–] Cort 5 points 10 hours ago

Electricity is more expensive out west than in the deep South. Also there's more oil and gas wells nearby lowering the transport/delivery costs.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 7 points 10 hours ago

Age of the city and sufficient infrastructure. Once the building is built to use [oil or gas or whatever] it’s never refit to use something else. Something something quarterly profits.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Market supply and demand I assume.

Age of home probably plays a factor as well.

[–] cryptiod137 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why would the age of a hole change it's preferred heating method?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Meant home.

If a house is setup for boiler/oil it’d be a real pain to retrofit it got forced air heating (nat gas, electric)