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[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Funko did not request a takedown of the @itchio platform."

Man, I fucking hate corpo-speak like this.

Yes, you didn't personally make the request against itchio.... But you hired this company to enforce "brand protection" and that's what they did. So you did actually request the takedown, but you just did so by authorizing another party to make such requests on your behalf.

This is like a military General saying "hey I didn't commit any warcrimes, I just gave the orders to my men to commit warcrimes!"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago

Translation: "we didn't think this predatory behavior would affect our bottom line, and we deeply regret that it has."

[–] pyre 32 points 6 days ago

AI to determine people's livelihoods, huh?

By the way, who's the Brandshield CEO? Asking for a friend.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Corporate doing corporate shit. And then asking why people hate corporations and their CEOs.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People used to think so highly of CEOs, that they must be doing something right if they got to where they are. They must be smarter and have all the answers.

Now people are realizing CEOs are just rich scumbags.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Yep, I'm sure most of them just bought their positions there to have power over society.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The fact that a legit website could be taken down just by a big corporation claim, without any further third party or gubernamental investigation. Is indeed frightening.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Nintendo people: First time?

[–] caseofthematts 367 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I'm just going to post this comment to this thread as well, since this is newer. Classic shifting of blame and no one taking responsibility for scummy actions.

Fun fact: Funko's current CEO is the ex-president of Wizards of the Coast!

Why is this relevant? Well, under her leadership, WotC sent pinkerton agents to someone's home to threaten them because they got some Magic the Gathering cards early. She said things like Dungeons & Dragons players were under-monetised, pushing to make the Table Top game more like a microtransaction-filled video game, and helped with the OGL scandal.

The OGL, for anyone unfamiliar, was an Open Gaming License WotC had for years with D&D 3rd party creators. It allowed certain things to be created using D&D mechanics and lore by anyone that followed its guidelines and allowances. A couple years ago, WotC tried to change that so they would make more money off of people trying to create things for D&D - to profit off of indie creators passionate about the game. There was a huge backlash, and they eventually went back on this decision.

All this to say, you can see what kind of leader the current Funko CEO is, and what's happening with itch isn't surprising to me.

[–] ChicoSuave 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fucking Pinkertons? That's a company who can use a visit from Luigi.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Literally the company that RDR2 portrays as the bad guys, that sued the makers of the game and lost because they objectively ARE the bad guys.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

They have also had over a century to rename themselves and haven't, which means they want the reputation the name has.

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[–] donuts 75 points 1 week ago

That's quite telling, thanks for sharing.

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[–] [email protected] 239 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They requested a takedown before talking to the website owners? That's such a hostile move

[–] [email protected] 196 points 1 week ago (13 children)

DMCA used to be used very very rarely because it carries(carried?) significant penalties for using it like a club. Now it's just being used like a club and it's quite obvious there's no penalty.

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[–] [email protected] 236 points 1 week ago (20 children)

So Funko issued a non-apology blaming Brandshield.

Brandshield issued a non-apology blaming the registrar (Iwantmyname), and saying their AI tool definitely had nothing to do with it

And Iwantmyname hasn't even put out a statement.

Fucked all around, yet it seems nobody will be facing consequence for this except Itch.io who got their website nuked out of nowhere.

Though if I were Itch, I'd get a new registrar ASAP.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'd do a new registrar either way.

I've worked at hosting companies in the past. I don't know the timeline, but I've never encountered a situation where one folded this fast and just take down a client's site over a copyright claim.

And our clients, because of the nature of the internet being the internet, a small percentage were real scumbag folks, who while the content was objectionable and disgusting, it wasn't illegal. Which means it stayed up.

  • If there was something highly illegal like csam or dark web stuff and it came from a federal agency, we'd take down the site immediately.

  • If it was a strong letter from a legal entity that we trusted, we would pass that to the client and recommend remediation. No takedown unless there was a court order.

  • If it was a weak letter from a random legal entity, we lol'ed and wait for the threat of a lawsuit/court order. This was surprisingly extremely common.

So wtf is this registrar doing to shit on their clients so fast without a court order?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, if Iwantmyname are so neglectful as to pull the entire plug on your website over a singlular copyright claim, then I'd move right the fuck along too. They're clearly not a trustworthy registrar.

To make things worse, Itch.io isn't exactly a small company either. If this happened to someone smaller, with less outreach to fight back with than Itch, I can only imagine they'd have no recourse against this neglectful behaviour.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

There are lots of finger-pointing here. Funko said the takedown was done by their partner, BrandShield. BrandShield said it was a URL-specific (or is it subdomain?) takedown, not the whole domain. The registrar, Iwantmyname, responded said takedown by taking down the WHOLE domain.

I think Funko shouldn't have trusted AI to do legal-related stuff. BrandShield is a stupid idea born from the AI-hype. It's stupid and shouldn't have existed. Iwantmyname is just as incompetent if not more--they haven't even released any public statement about this. Their customer support are also slow to response apparently.

Itch.io should move domain registrar. Funko should stop using BrandShield, it only damages their brand more.

Also what's up with Funko calling someone's mom lol. that's stupid


I also think that this is why AI won't replace our jobs. I've seen many instances where technologies replaces jobs, but this ain't it

[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also: brand shield says they only wanted the url gone but you don't get that when talking to the registrar. Registrar are all or nothing, so clearly they knew they were doing this

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think this is a very important point. Why would you talk to a registrar of the domain to get a specific page offline. This doesn't make sense.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I notice it doesn't include the word "sorry".

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why is it so hard just to say "this was not out intention, we recognize it was bad, and we are sorry."

There's a lot of words here for a non-apology.

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[–] obinice 78 points 1 week ago

Fuck Funko and fuck their shitty CEO.

Not worth thinking about any further. I wish itch.io the best in their lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fuck Funko Pops.

Fuck BrandShield.

I accuse them both of causing itch.io to go down and it is their fault.

[–] Snapz 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Fuck all the corpo fucks involved here with their plausible deniability attempt. If you truly felt any remorse, you'd talk about how you'll disengage this AI chum service, or demand that requests are extremely precise or hyper targeted at specific direct issues. This story of blanket action helps the big company with monkey and always hurts the little guy that gets swept up in their ravenous wake.

Also, educate the next month of your online presence you boosting the brand you wronged with your reach. But you won't do shit, you aren't remorseful.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It so so pisses me off when these companies say shit like "thank you for sharing in our passion for creativity"

It's basically saying "thank you for agreeing with us", which I don't.

At this point you just know that any company saying something like that is abusive, doesn't give a shit and just want to pretend to be respectable.

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