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[–] Klear 3 points 13 hours ago

6 hours - you look better, but still dead inside, got it.

[–] LouNeko 2 points 12 hours ago

sleeping forever :)

[–] shneancy 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

alright fuckers let's go over this again (and spread the knowledge please, it baffles me how it's apparently niche info)

your sleep is on a cycle, each cycle is ~90 minutes, you need from 4 to 6 consecutive cycles to get a good night's sleep, that's 6 to 9h (how much you need depends on your body)

now here's the kicker - if you wake up at the end or the beginning of a sleep cycle, which is when the lightest phase of sleep occurs - you'll feel nice and refreshed.

but if you wake up in the middle - during the deepest phase of your sleep cycle - you'll feel like a fucking zombie and are quite likely to promptly turn off your alarm & go back to sleep and not even register that action as a memory because most of your brain is still asleep

this is also why you can't really have a 40 min nap that leaves you refreshed, you can either have a refreshing <20min nap or a refreshing ~90min nap, anything inbetween will make you feel more tired as your mind now has to wake itself up all the way from deep sleep

so yeah, sleep in ~90min increments, my personal sweet spot is 7:30h

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

There are apps that can work this out for you

So either i say im going to sleep "now" and it tells me all the times that will align with light sleep and i can choose one to set an alarm for. (It even accounts for the average time it takes people to fall asleep)

Or i can say i want to be up at X time, and it tells me the best times to put my head on the pillow (phone off and eyes closed actually trying to sleep)

Sometimes it works out better for me to get slightly less or more sleep if it means waking during light sleep.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

7.5 hour club represent!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If there's a "right" amount of sleep, I've yet to figure out what it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

for me it's 2 consecutive "nights" of 17 hours. That way I'll get about 3 to 4 hours of actual quality awakeness. Doesn't work always though, sometimes I can't fall asleep enough.

Anything below that is always crap, no matter what.

[–] BeardedBlaze 14 points 2 days ago

For me it was undiagnosed sleep apnea

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

My sweetspot is 5.5-6.5 hrs. (+caffine) I'm slightly on the ADHD spectrum, so the mix of bodily stress hormones and deep sleep is just right.

But that's just me. Everyone is different.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

you need 7h or more of sleep regularly or you'll get neural damage in the long run. i'm talking tinnitus, spasms, halluzinations, etc. a few days less per month won't be a problem

[–] Sylvartas 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, fuck. Is the neutral damage reversible ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

to some degree, yes. like hallucinations or eye twitching will usuallly disappear after one or two nights of 7+ hours of sleep. tinnitus can take several days to disappear.

[–] Sylvartas 2 points 1 day ago

Good to know. I definitely had some minor auditory hallucinations or spasms come and go depending on how badly I managed my sleep schedule and I never really thought about that. I think the tinnitus is mostly actual physical damages because I wanted to rawdog some metal concerts when I was younger though.

[–] bruhduh 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if i have neural damage despite enough sleep? I'm a muay thai practitioner btw

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That depends. You should talk about it with your doctor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

17 hours and no less

[–] hark 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I'm hitting 10 hours of sleep, it's generally because I've been missing out on sleep, though I generally feel great after that 10 hours. If I get enough days in a row where I can sleep uninterrupted, then I seem to settle at around 8 hours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I've found my body is similar. Sweet spot for me seems to be about 7 hours consistently or a mix of 6s and 9s as they roll in.

I've also learned that I can do 6 hours for about 3 nights in a row and no more than that.

Whenever my kids let me sleep like a sane human I might become more consistent with my sleep

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

go to bed at 10pm Children 😁😁🌚😉

I don't know why i made this creepy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

5.5-7 hours in weekdays, 11 on Friday, then (assuming I have work) 7 on Sunday
Here's my yearly sleep since I got my watch

Here's my weekly