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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22819667

"If our overheating planet is a result of human greed, then it must be a special kind of greed, a kind that emerged puzzlingly late in the long history of our species and then with a sudden vengeance."

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[–] PP_BOY_ 19 points 2 weeks ago

When are shitty editorials going to stop trying to blame billions of innocent people something that only a fraction of a fraction of the population has any control over?

As it stands, the only way for the overwhelming majority of people to make even a dent in the direction of climate change comes at a huge cost of personal comfort/ability and I'm not so quick to pass judgement on people for protecting what little creature comforts they're allowed to have in [current year].

[–] Sanctus 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When we all decide to be like Mr Handsome Gray Hoodie

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

It is hard to sacrifice one's own well-being for the greater good.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

When we have the courage to shoot oil executives.

[–] jordanlund 13 points 2 weeks ago

Never. The plan is delay, delay, delay, delay until it's too late and then go "Well, there's nothing we could have done anyway."

I've been following the arguments for decades now:

  1. Climate change is not happening.

  2. OK, climate change is happening, but there's no evidence it's caused by humans.

  3. OK, it is happening, and maybe it's caused by humans, but maybe it's something else.

  4. OK, it is happening, and it's definitely caused by humans, but it's too expensive to do anything about it, and people need jobs. <- You are here.

  5. OK, it is happening, it's caused by humans, and it's bad enough now that it's making it impossible for people to work without air conditioning, but really, the time to have done something was 30 to 50 years ago. (eta 2030 to 2050).

  6. OK, well, it's self perpetuating at this point, nothing to be done. Here, have some more oil, on us. (eta 2100).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It will stop through natural causes. Humans aren’t wired to collectively think on climate timescales.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup, after 8 billion or so humans have died off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And most of the animal species; that’s the sad part.

But it’s not like it will be the first time; dinosaurs weren’t known for thinking on climate timescales either.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There isn’t an evolutionary advantage to thinking in those timescales, so no animal ever evolved them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

suddenly everyone got greedy

Yeah, just now. Not 500-2000 years ago with Pharos, Kings and Emperors. Humanity has always been greedy, and cruel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

When the people preventing action (everyone in power) have been done away with