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I'm out of the loop, what is blue passport?
EDIT: got it
Like Felix said, most EU countries have burgundy passports. The UK had burgundy passports while still in the EU.
Parts of the UK right wing press and politics stirred up drama about the colour of UK passports during the Brexit debate bemoaning that the dirty, unelected, bureaucratic EU had forced the beautiful, strong, innocent UK to switch from our nationally loved blue passports to their disgusting red ones when we joined the EU.
What really happened is the EU agreed (with UK input) on a standardised layout and design for passports. They did this to make movement around the EU easier and simpler. These agreed standards were guidelines. Each EU member was free to ignore them if they wished. Most use the standard because it makes their life easier. The UK chose to follow the standard, partially because it was one of the designers of the standard.
Because there was a standard colour (burgundy), this meant there was a higher demand for this colour. Higher demand means passport manufacturers prioritise their production for these demands. Prioritised manufacturing meant this colour and style became cheaper. It's not bespoke, it's the standard.
Because the Conservatives and Reform, etc. (the Brexiters) made such a big deal about the colour of UK passports, when Brexit happened they of course had to follow through on changing the passport colours. The result is that UK passports cost more to manufacture now than they did before, and last I checked were manufactured by a company in France! But the Brexiteers believe they've won against the EU by having blue instead of red passports.
It's so embarrassing.
our nationally loved blue passports their disgusting red ones
I don't know if this is a new low after the straight bananas BS or not
EU passports are usually burgundy. Old UK passport before it joined the EU was blue (looked more like black to me)
Only the very old ones were blue - only people born before ~1970 (54 years old) would have ever used one as an adult, though people in their late 30s or 40s may have seen someone else using one as recently as 25-30 years ago.
For the majority of Britons, a traditional British passport is burgundy, like it's always been, and the blue ones are new "special racist passports".
[Edit] in answer to the original question, one of the terms of Brexit was "we get our old passport colour back". The mere idea got Daily Mail and Daily Express readers frothing at the cock.
TIL burgundy is a color
Even colour.
I kinda like the midnight blue shade they chose tho.
It wasn't a referendum on what color our passports were.
The government decides what our passports look like. They could totally change the look without us having to leave the EU. It's not as if there was some EU mandate that forced our passports to be burgundy.
To be manufactured in France, if memory serves.
The French company got bought out, they're made in Poland now.
No, the French company manufactures them in Poland.
Yeah but we did not need to leave the EU.
To pay the french to make that.
It's fair to say a big deal was made over the change in colour back when they announced it. But four / five years on from that it's only ever brought up by Remainers, constantly...
That's because brexit supporters are embarrassed about how stupid they are.
Yeah that is what happens in the world. When one side discovers how stupid their claim to a win was.
The other side gets to take the piss out of their stupidity.
Not sure you really have a point.
…..must resist the urge to be that guy who points out the sexually diamorphic skull differences…..
also age alters skull shape, and ethnicity, and underlying bone structure plays a part in physical appearance.
But at least the NHS is now well funded
/s
I still think we should sue Johnson. He said there would be 400 bajillion pounds a minute for the NHS once we left the EU and it hasn't appeared. He wouldn't have lied about such a thing, so the only logical conclusion is that he's stolen it.
Joking aside, there were a lot of blatant lies around Brexit, it’s fucked that there haven’t been any consequences.
The lockdown parties were a cover up for false alibi. It explains everything
Doesn't mean much without knowing if it's increased domestic sales by reducing imports.
The paper also found that since Brexit the EU and UK have diverged in a number of areas ... the UK has tighter rules on animal welfare.
So any deal would potentially mean lowering our animal welfare standards?
I work for a food manufacturer which used to sell 40% of made good to the EU. I say used to. The added costs has meant we have to increase sale prices which when selling to companies like Carrefour means they just refuse when they can source the same product on the EU for less.
The type of food we make (non animal except for honey and milk) aren't really imported into the UK. The sales to UK haven't really been affected. The business is struggling to break even.
I think the company will survive but it means making big changes in ways not done before to increase sales to the UK market. Interesting times...
I was told we would chlorinate our chicken after Brexit? That not happening anymore? Well shit...
Not necessarily; we could very well keep our high standards which would be fine for exporting to places with less stringent standards, whilst increasing the standards of imported meats if we were importing more from the EU again, as opposed to importing from Asia for meats used in ready meals, takeaways, etc.
What? No pork markets?
