He did. By passing meaningful legislation for 4 years and forgiving student loans.
Then we told him to go fuck himself and re-hired a felon rapist.
He doesn't owe us shit.
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He doesn’t owe us shit.
Like fuck he doesn't. He's the fucking president. If he had an ounce of decency, he'd keep fighting fascism 'til the last day of his presidency. That's what having power in a republic means, the duty to use it for the common good.
The Senator from MBNA only ever had one agenda. I'll quote the man himself, "Nothing will fundamentally change". Caught hotmic'd in a closed door large ~~bribery~~ donor fancy plate shindig 4.5 years ago. Wouldn't be holding any breath waiting for anything from this guy.
Do you have suggestions? Or just complaints? Are you aware presidents can't just do anything?
Do you have suggestions? Or just complaints? Are you aware presidents can’t just do anything?
Holy fucking shit man, the only thing I'm responding to is the idea that Biden doesn't "owe us shit" because the US electorate was mean to him. Biden owes us the full execution of his duty to the best of his abilities from now until the day he leaves the presidency.
Not to mention that the very topic of the post and article is literally a suggestion from a Congresscritter.
What are your suggestions? You're complaining. What do you want him to do, within his power, in the remaining month?
Despite these actions, the Last Prisoner Project (LPP) notes in a statement that Biden “has yet to release a single person still incarcerated for cannabis through commutation.” Although the pardons granted relief to thousands of people with a conviction on their records, the president’s clemency actions did not address the approximately 3,000 individuals serving time in federal prisons for cannabis related offenses.
Ask more of your leaders. He in fact does owe us. We live in a democracy.
Be dissatisfied with corruption and nepotism. Otherwise that is all we will get. And we'll have no one to blame but ourselves.
Could he pardon our loans please?
You don't pay much attention to news, huh?
Are you talking about the student loans he wrote off for a small subset of people who needed it?
I'm happy for those who got it, but that's hardly enough progress on this issue for me to give our government praise for it. Nearly all of us in the working class were still better off four years ago than we are now. Biden jacked up interest rates to address "inflation," which increased my mortgage by around $700 a month. That's more than what I pay in student loans, and that's just one example.
Things seems to just get worse slower when dems are in office, not better. IAnd I'm entirely fed up with it.
100%
They're controlled opposition; they exist to block any leftist, progressive candidates from reaching positions of actual influence. They have abandoned workers and aided in the gutting of the middle class for at least 10 years.
A true 'Murican (I live among them)
He pardoned hundreds of people for nonviolent weed offenses and nobody bat an eye, but I'm sure every little bit helps.
Despite these actions, the Last Prisoner Project (LPP) notes in a statement that Biden “has yet to release a single person still incarcerated for cannabis through commutation.” Although the pardons granted relief to thousands of people with a conviction on their records, the president’s clemency actions did not address the approximately 3,000 individuals serving time in federal prisons for cannabis related offenses.
He should definitely do more.
Something about their wording kind of turns me off. If there are people still behind bars for only Marijuana, and no history of violence, then certainly Biden should set them free.
Something about their wording kind of turns me off.
Is your argument that their tone is wrong?
No, I'm expressing the nuance that I wouldn't support immediate release of everyone whose crimes include but explicitly are not limited to Weed. I'm just expressing nuance. I think people with multiple crimes should be considered for commuting sentences or parole but I don't think releasing them all as a blanket statement is uh... sane.
That's not Tone. That's having a different stance altogether, unless they're simply failing to convey their stance.
The quoted section in particular is referring to people with cannabis related offenses. It doesn't say anything about releasing people with more serious offenses in addition to cannabis related offenses.
That isn't nuance it's just putting words in their mouth.
If you release every single person with cannabis related offenses then you're going to release people with many other crimes as well. Rather than putting words in their mouth I'm pointing out their stance is subjectively bad with the low number of words they are using.
I have to be critical of this because the world we live in absolutely has people who would release every single person, unironically.
If you release every single person with cannabis related offense
the president’s clemency actions did not address the approximately 3,000 individuals serving time in federal prisons for cannabis related offenses.
These are the not the same statements. No one is arguing for releasing every single person with cannabis offenses no matter what other crime they also committed. These are people with cannabis related offenses and nothing else.
It's clear because they specified a number, 3000. Your argument isn't being critical because it doesn't address what they actually wrote.
The Forbes Article that you linked me to 7 comments up the chain says "He can extend clemency to every person still serving time for federal cannabis offenses, many of whom have already spent decades behind bars."
They might have a good point if they mean what is implied and not what they are explicitly saying.
“While cannabis is now legal in Minnesota and many states across America, thousands remain behind bars in federal prisons for the same substance – a reminder of the work still ahead,” Rep. Ilhan Omar, a Democrat from Minnesota, said on the Capitol steps on November 20. “President Biden still has time to build on his initial pardons and take decisive action. He can extend clemency to every person still serving time for federal cannabis offenses, many of whom have already spent decades behind bars. In Minnesota, we've shown that cannabis legalization and expungement can move hand in hand. Now it's time for federal action to match this progress.”
That's a quote from representative Ilhan Omar, not LPP. Regardless, it's evident that she meant people who are in federal prison for cannabis offenses only. She was not referring to the intersection of people with cannabis offenses and every other possible crime.
The phrases "While cannabis is now legal in Minnesota and many states across America, thousands remain behind bars in federal prisons for the same substance" and "cannabis legalization and expungement can move hand in hand" make it clear what she meant.
No one can seriously look at this and reasonably conclude she meant something like serial killers who were also convicted of cannabis offenses. That's not a position anyone is taking. That's a bizarre interpretation given what was explicitly said.
Common Democratic PR fumble.
I swear to God, the Dems PR team is all Republican undercover agents.
More like the Dems pr is aimed at their potential donors, not their potential voters.
Why are people acting like this is too difficult? Biden doesn't have to go through every file himself. Form a small committee of legal experts you respect and take a bite out of what you can.
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and pardon on a case-by-case basis the working-class Americans in the federal prison system whose lives have been ruined by unjustly aggressive prosecutions for nonviolent offenses
It's a noble idea in principle. But how the hell can a sizeable number of innocent or excessively punished people be pardoned on a case by case basis in the span of under 7 weeks?
This is an extremely impractical idea to implement, and reeks of empty grandstanding in by Jeffries.
"Sorry for the shitty system we're kind of responsible for. Go see Moana 2!"
Just pardon them all to bankrupt the prison system and realize that while you let a few awful people go free most of the people you pardoned and those around them will have markedly better lives.
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The first people the fascists are going to go after will likely be minorities and immigrants in prison.
If Joe Biden pardoning Hunter Biden doesn't bother you then neither should this. This is what we should be calling for, because the justice system isn't fair to anyone, not just Hunter Biden.
“During his final weeks in office, President Biden should exercise the high level of compassion he has consistently demonstrated throughout his life, including toward his son, and pardon on a case-by-case basis the working-class Americans in the federal prison system whose lives have been ruined by unjustly aggressive prosecutions for nonviolent offenses,” Jeffries said in a statement.
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