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Despite Microsoft's push to get customers onto Windows 11, growth in the market share of the software giant's latest operating system has stalled, while Windows 10 has made modest gains, according to fresh figures from Statcounter.

This is not the news Microsoft wanted to hear. After half a year of growth, the line for Windows 11 global desktop market share has taken a slight downturn, according to the website usage monitor, going from 35.6 percent in October to 34.9 percent in November. Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market by just under a percentage point to 61.8 percent.

The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade. The stats also revealed a small drop in the market share of its Edge browser, despite relentlessly plugging the application in the operating system.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

The main problem is that Win11 can only run in special hardware and Microsoft can pry out my potato computer from my cold, dead hands. I won't change my hardware to update my OS.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Do it the other way, change your OS! Embrace the pinguin!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The beating will continue until morale increases. - Microsoft PR

[–] LovableSidekick 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

When you "have" to keep making new versions to satisfy market "demand" in the "free" market.

[–] Shadywack 48 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well, Microsoft said way back when that "Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows" so a lot of enterprise went to it. To this day I'm dealing with vendors that have a certified "Windows 10-only" solution. Another funny one is stuff like Ford's FDRS software still only officially supports Windows 10 Pro.

Platform changes and all that are fine, but when Microsoft says basically "This is gonna be your LTS forever" and then bails on it, shit like this is no surprise at all.

[–] jj4211 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'll admit to some 'asterisk' to that.

So a developer evangelist said "because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10". So the media ran with the most intuitive interpretation of that language and expanded on it and declared that Microsoft was basically changing to a rolling release model. Note that folks say "he meant latest, not last".

Meanwhile, Microsoft's formal lifecycle statement said, from the onset, that it wasn't going to be supported in 10 years.

However, Microsoft did nothing to clarify the rampant coverage. So I'm still on the side of "the popular impression among people was eternally supported rolling release". Just acknowledging that, formally, they did designate 10 the same way they had designated previous versions.

[–] Shadywack 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you fully, and that's my main point. Their own forums were full of the question being repeatedly asked and dismissed, granted by "MVP's" or independent advisors who have no link to the internal development or plans, they should have stepped up their messaging. The enterprise I work for pays them a fuckton of money, and we even have our own dedicated account reps who sang the same tune those fuckers on the forums did, and they were legit Microsoft employees. When W10's EOL was announced they sent over a lot of gift baskets to our VP's over that shit, because we knew how many mission critical systems we had that just got fucked in the ass, and our budgetary outlays just changed.

Complete fucking asshole move, and it could've been much better if the messaging were just handled differently.

[–] jj4211 3 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, I strongly suspect there was a camp within Microsoft that was 100% pushing for 'rolling release' model for the OS versus another traditionalist camp that said there would be new major upgrades. Further, I bet rather than reconciling those perspectives, they just let both camps continue on under their own assumption, until eventually the traditionalists won out and got 'Windows 11', finalizing which way the company was going to actually go.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago

I wonder if the stats will rise considerably during 2025 with all the business and enterprise environment switching after delaying the upgrade for a few years. We certainly have to do that at work.

[–] finitebanjo 2 points 5 hours ago

I've been apprehensive to all kinds of adverts for years, I guess the general population is catching up to me on this trend.

[–] werefreeatlast 5 points 7 hours ago

Wellp..... This morning I was ready to go to work and have a few meetings but thanks to windows 11 inconvenient update service now I can just come here to complain.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (10 children)

im forced to use it at work and holy shit. 11 is so heavy for no reason, 8gb of ram is not remotely enough anymore.

the ssd smart says its almost at its end, and i suspect its because its constantly swapping.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

I'm pegged at 95% RAM usage all day at work 16 gigs and I'm not doing anything too heavy. Windows is a bloated gross mess

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[–] surph_ninja 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s just a hunch, but my suspicion is it’s already capturing a lot of data for Recall to process later after it’s launched.

I can’t think of any other reasonable explanation for the severe performance decrease on Windows 11.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I think it's simpler than that.

I think Windows 11 feels unresponsive because of how many features have Internet-enabled features built deep into them. All those little delays opening menus, etc, I think are actually network delay, so the little ads or other stuff have time to fetch and load and show simultaneously with the rest of the UI. Meaning the UI itself has to be delayed slightly to make it less obvious what's being fed to you from online vs local.

Nothing makes my Windows 11 PC shit the bed harder than an unreliable or interrupted Internet connection. Literally crashing the whole PC sometimes.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (16 children)

The moment I can verify a solution for my music production workflow on Linux, I know that I'm out as well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I don't know what you're currently accustomed to or what the feature/workflow differences would be, but I've had some music folks I know be successful with Ardour and Reaper. Have you checked to see if those would let you do your thing? The other problem I've had is audio interface support in Linux, but that seems to have improved a lot. I've got an old Axe I/O Solo that didn't work at all a few years ago but now seems to have full support.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Have you tried something like Wine or even Proton for it? I know that Proton is thought as more for games, but it runs Windows apps in general. Just add the app as a "game" in Steam and tell it to run with a version of Proton.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

This, video gaming has blazed a path forward for music production workflows to fully embrace linux.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It isn't just a single application is the problem, it's the VST plugins and their respective management softwares, drivers for audio interfaces, and some other such things. I use FL studio and I have seen people get it mostly working in wine, but its all the other stuff that creates an issue.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

well the market share of Windows 11 has risen significantly on my work laptop, and I can wholehearedly say, I understand why its global market share is falling...... random freezes, random restarts, battery life sliced, random starting up from suspend. it's not great.

meanwhile, Manjaro on my personal Lenovo laptop has been cutting edge with consistent updates for years.

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[–] werefreeatlast 11 points 10 hours ago

Hmmm.... Maybe people using windows 10 really do love the full screen ads! Yeah! They missed the ads so they went back to windows 10 until they can get those ads in windows 11! Yup! That must be it!

I would double down on full screen unstoppable ads. Maybe one that looks like a BSOD? That would be lovely!

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