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Three people died and 32 were hospitalized in the Philippines after eating a stew made from an endangered sea turtle in Maguindanao del Norte.

Symptoms included vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal spasms, likely caused by toxins from contaminated algae consumed by the turtle.

The stew was a traditional dish, but hunting or consuming sea turtles is illegal under Philippine law.

Similar poisoning cases have occurred, with sea turtles traditionally hunted for their flesh and eggs in some communities.

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[–] FlyingSquid 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm not going to say good, but I also don't pity them. One of the rare cases where humans kill an endangered animal and the animal gets some revenge.

[–] Agent641 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

This was an indigenous community that believes that eating these turtles grants long life and health. They don't recognize the endangered status at all, and aren't equipped to detect the threat of toxic algae contamination. In many cases, the victims of these incidents are children, who are fed turtle meat for its proported benefits.

Think carefully about publicly celebrating these people's deaths.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I remember the last time I read a similar story, it was mainly toddlers that died. So... Mixed bag.

[–] jaybone 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Similar cases have occurred? And it’s endangered and illegal?

That must be some pretty motherfuckin good goddamn soup.

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've read before that one of the reasons the Galapogos tortoise species were either driven to extinction or almost so was because sailors though they tasted amazing.

So someone in the new cultured cloned meat industry really needs to get on that.

[–] CluckN 9 points 1 day ago

They could also survive for a very long time without food and water. Sailors would grab like 50 of them when visiting islands and snack on them like Doritos.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I had to double-check the location where the incident happened, prepared to write paragraphs on how the area is poor and undeveloped and so environmental protections are ignored when literal hunger is the more important consideration... but I am not too sure now.

The overall area is poor, not entirely remote, but still remote in comparison to places like Manila or Davao. I was under the impression that this event happened on a remote island municipality where sourcing food is an issue, but maybe it's just poverty?

Not excusing the act nor gloating over the deaths though, just trying to understand (and failing) how this came to be. Not to mention why they ignored the glaring signs before they slaughtered and cooked the creature. In the news report I saw here locally, and I am recalling from memory, it is said that the victims found the turtle's shell to be discolored, but still proceeded anyways.

[–] SpruceBringsteen 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Article mentions indigenous.

Also, this is southern Mindanao we're talking about. Cagayan de Oro is kinda viewed as backswoodsy by people in Manila and this is well south of Cagayan. This is well off the beaten path.

Anywhere you go in the Philippines you can find hunger. It's everywhere. Not exonerating them, but we're likely talking subsistence level fishermen here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I am from Manila, so I have been careful not to brush the area off as "backswoodsy and poor". But yeah, that's why I was prepared to explain things off as "yeah, they're poor and desperate". But then again, it feels wrong, IDK, lol~

I missed the word "indigenous" even though it's mentioned not just in the article, but also in the news report I saw. With a possible few exceptions, the indigenous peoples in the Philippines have been neglected and marginalized, and their communities been poor because of that.

[–] jaybone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Interesting insight. I was initially thinking this was some rare delicacy which the wealthy take part in, believing they are above the law and above environmental regulations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I think it's still a sought-for delicacy, and they would have probably sold its meat if it weren't for the environmental regulations making such a trade difficult.

Also, something is gnawing me about how the article said lots of other seafood are available in the area. So I am thinking the sea turtle crawled its way to where the victims are, and the victims thinking “it's a waste if we let this delicacy go to waste, let's cook it!” I don't know.

Definitely not a bunch of rich dudes gorging themselves on a rare delicacy and getting their comeuppance tho.

[–] Machinist 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not getting into the ethics of poor/uneducated people eating endangered species. Everybody sucks. It's unfortunate.

Turtle is fucking delicious. I've only had freshwater turtle from non-threatened species. Best way I ever had was as barbecue sandwiches using a crockpot recipe prepared by an old man. Seven kinds of meat in a turtle. Killed a snapping turtle in a stocked pond once and spent hours trying to recover it just so we could eat it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

They're so delicious they've become extinct in several places. English colonists ate all the turtles in Jamestown, Virginia, and while nobody claims that it contributed to the famine that killed the settlement, maybe.

Never had it, myself; turtle is one of the few animals I won't eat, for no particular reason except I like them and haven't developed a taste for them. But I hear from everyone that has that they're delicious.

Doesn't justify eating endangered species, even if you aren't against eating meat on moral grounds.