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Summary

President Biden announced a U.S.-brokered ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah, effective Wednesday, ending over a year of deadly conflict that killed nearly 3,800 in Lebanon and displaced over 1.2 million.

The deal requires Hezbollah to pull forces 20 miles from Israel’s border, Israeli troop withdrawals within 60 days, and joint patrols by Lebanese forces and UN peacekeepers.

Biden emphasized Israel’s right to self-defense if terms are violated.

France supported implementation efforts, while Iran and Trump’s team were briefed.

Fighting between Israel and Hamas in Gaza remains unresolved.

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[–] IndustryStandard 8 points 6 days ago

Agedlikemilk

[–] Resonosity 6 points 6 days ago

Cool, now do Gaza you pos

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX 61 points 1 week ago

Mr. Biden said if Hezbollah or anyone else breaks the deal and poses a direct threat to Israel, then Israel retains the right to self-defense.

And if Israel breaks the deal then the Lebanese people have a right to self defense, too.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How much you want to bet Israelis are going to be building houses all up in that 20-mile zone almost immediately?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Yeah, funny Israel gets 2 months to retreat. My bet is they won't.

[–] rockSlayer 10 points 1 week ago

They're probably shipping the materials as we speak.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

Is it only young people commenting under this post? Everyone is so skeptical as if Hezbollah and Israel haven't gone through this numerous times in the past.

Will it last forever? It never has before. Will it dramatically reduce hostilities for a period of time? Very likely.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Too good, to be true. But I want to be mistaken.

[–] T00l_shed 0 points 1 week ago

Trump was elected. Not surprised.

[–] anas 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m sure something will happen if they fail to withdraw within the 60 day deadline, right? Just like all the previous deadlines they failed to meet, right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter to them because by then if they break the agreement it'll be Trump's problem. Biden can take credit for brokering a peace deal before he leaves office to bolster his resume

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Does it count if also a reason for the conflict occurring?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The hostilities predate Biden, the current conflict would have happened with anyone as president

It’s just a US/Russia proxy war so if the US president took the other side then the conflict would be over as the one side is eliminated just like they’ve been in the rest of the Arab world (though part of that is likely that they fled to Israel)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh well that absoves Biden of everything then!

Him allowing Israel to anything they want definitely didn't do anything to increase hostilities in the area...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There’s a big difference between “everything” and being the reason for a conflict

Your initial statement was just a falsehood that makes it harder for everyone smarter than you to defend Palestinians

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Please Mr smarter than everyone explain how him letting Israel do everything they want didn't contribute. Especially as they've been escalating this entire time

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There you go redefining again

Some of us are old enough to remember Trump’s 2016 campaign where his messaging was to carpet bomb all of the Muslim nations in the Middle East

Others know what nations at war are capable of when the higher power behind them give the green light. We know Biden wasn’t letting Israel do as they please

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And there you go calling everyone else an idiot child.

Please show us where Biden has done anything to reign them in. Fuck he even went behind Obama and Hilarys back to let Israel and bibi get out of restraining

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Show me where Israel has used nuclear weapons

Show me the crater where Palestine was

They can track who buys pagers in a different country, arm them, then detonate remotely. Do you really think there would be anything left of Palestinians if Netty had free reign?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...within 60 days. So a week after trumps inauguration. What a coincidence.

[–] Kbobabob 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's probably hard to broker any deals longer than that because no one really knows what that orange turd is going to do.

[–] MimicJar 2 points 6 days ago

It's not that the deal will only last 60 days, just that they have 60 days to move everyone back and out of the aggressive range.

Realistically it's just boilerplate language. It's 60 days to pack up and go home, which is perfectly fair and reasonable.

Of course in reality this might just be a short reprieve. While both sides might be quiet for the next 60ish days (which is good), they might be right back at it for a variety of reasons, including the change in US leadership.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

And that includes the orange one himself.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

This couldn’t have happened 3 fucking months ago? Fuck Israel.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Got a consolation price