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"This can’t be real. It's unbelievable that they quietly enabled this."

Edit: Existing title was used in the originally published article.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Misrepresenting the article. Title is "Is Microsoft scraping Word and Excel data to train AI models?" and the site explicitly states "However, The Stack has learned that these concerns are inaccurate, and Microsoft has denied claims that it is feeding private information to large language models."

They're open to tips but presently its not actually being claimed anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

The article was originally published under "Microsoft is scraping Word and Excel data to "train AI models" which comes directly from my RSS feed.

I don't agree with the decision to change the title and the whole argument based on a proven liar denial, hence me keeping that original title.

Here is the alternative source that reiterated the main point: Microsoft Word and Excel AI data scraping slyly switched to opt-in by default — the opt-out toggle is not that easy to find

[–] homesweethomeMrL 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A Microsoft spokesperson explicitly denied claims that it was using M365 data to train AI models and said: “In Microsoft 365 consumer and commercial applications, Microsoft does not use customer data to train large language models without your permission.”

Did you see it? Did you catch the fnord there? (hint: they slip it in the end there, if you know how they mean: BOGU)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not saying I trust them, but where do they ask for permission?

[–] homesweethomeMrL 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] ohwhatfollyisman 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

yeah, no. looking at how the average person uses excel, this isn't the greatest idea.

[–] HessiaNerd 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seriously. I'm embarrassed about most of my spreadsheets. They end up more as notepads than anything...

[–] Dultas 2 points 2 weeks ago

Should I make a bulleted list? Nah, just throw it in a spreadsheet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh it’s good. AI can’t do complex spreadsheets worth a damn. But making run of the mill bullshit? That’s right up its alley.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who is paying for an office subscription? I know businesses utilize office, but there are several FOSS options that I'm aware of and have used, and I'm not even a FOSS prosletyzer. I even used them in college with zero issues. Individuals shouldn't even be bothering with this crap.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 3 points 2 weeks ago

Who is paying? Enough that microsoft could shut down all active development and still make a net profit for 1000 years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wonder whether they would ever scrape vscode or whether they expect that particular cohort may take less kindly to it

[–] cybersandwich 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Valmond 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I use vscode but I'm not on github.

Anyone know an ok editir for C#/Godot on Linux BTW?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's a whole range of editors depending on how much of an IDE hobbyist you want to be. VSCode is right smack down the middle from don't care at all to care too much.

For my opinion on the high end of quality from "I don't care I just want it to work" to "I make my own optimized tooling":

  • All of the Jetbrains editors, nearly language specific, sane out of the box defaults, industry standard.
  • VSCode, multilingual, good defaults, good plugin ecosystem, configurable when you need it to.
  • NeoVim, multilingual, basic defaults, install your own plugins, completely customize your IDE, code features (language servers, highlighting, completions). Really good plugin ecosystem

Also the see the Godot documentation for some more ideas https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/contributing/development/configuring_an_ide/index.html

[–] Valmond 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm a hardcore C/C++ person usually, but when I dabble in other languages I just want something that works, code highlight + autocompletion is already enough for me, can it autocomplete Godot too then that would be fabulous. Compule and launch? A dream. Debug? Impossible...

I use Jetbrain for python and it's very very good, so I'll check out their C# one, thanks for the hint!

The link you provided is for building Godot right? I mean not for bullding a game using Godot.

I'll check out neovim if I ever want to drown in features 😋

Thanks again!

Edit: according to the documentation jetbrains works with godot out of the box ❤️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Serious question: is there a way to completely disable this for SharePoint? We searched everywhere and haven't found options to disable it without wrecking SharePoint for the users.