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[–] Furbag 154 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I try not to judge Tesla drivers too much since plenty of them bought in before Elon went full mask-off in support of fascism, but if you own a Cybertruck you were 100% aware of what you were supporting when you bought it and I will absolutely judge you for that poor financial decision. Fucking Cyberdorks.

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 week ago (10 children)

It may be unfair, but I've been increasingly judgemental of Tesla drivers, especially over the past 4 or 5 years. He used to just be a joke when he was tweeting edgelord stuff like his nightstand and trying to have images scrubbed from the internet of when he was still bald. Model S, model 3, model X (s3x, hur dur). Then I was made angry by the hyperloop and his distracting, unproductive impact of the way America thinks about mass transit. Then I got mad about Starlink, first as extremely expensive, dystopian sky litter. Then as a frightening glimpse at communication control in places with civil unrest/protest. Then he bought twitter, and did a hilariously bad job at running it. Installing a cartoonishly bad sign on his building and whatnot. Naming it something idiotic. Then helping bring Trump back from the dead. Then everything he has done in the 2024 election cycle. I don't know how people can stand to be associated with Elon and all the he represents in any way. It would be like driving around in a Jimmy Savile-mobile.

[–] ch00f 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because I bought a $60k car in 2018 that still works fine, and replacing a fully functional vehicle is a huge expense to undertake.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I acknowledge that it's unfair, but I'm judging you. Everyone driving in a Tesla looks like a rube at best, tacky and vain at least, or a contributor to fascism at worst. Perhaps you might consider a bumper sticker, haha.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

The stickers do help, I have seen one before and then I remember how it was exciting in the early days that someone was very publicly making a big push to introduce a viable alternative to internal combustion engines. We know a lot more now about Musk and Tesla than we did back when the first cars rolled out. A lot of the early Tesla owners probably meant well and it doesn’t help that nearly all the infrastructure (at least in my area) is car-only and hostile towards other forms of transit.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Ah, back when full self driving was only negative four years into the future.

[–] Eheran 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He pushed Hyperloop such that they build more roads btw. since other forms of transit were just fine or however it went back then. Goal achieved, idiots loved him and argued for this nonsense a lot.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It was an attempt to derail California (and other) High Speed Rail.

Why would you build HSR if there's something way faster/better/cheaper, you just need to wait 5 years? You're going to look really dumb if you spend tens of billions on infrastructure intended to last more than a century, and then it's obsolete before it's complete.

Similar story with Toyota perpetually claiming to have amazing batteries 3-5 years away, making every EV look like an expensive waste with no resale value.

And a hydrogen economy, small nuclear reactors, or fusion power being 5/10/20 years away, removing the need to invest in transmission and generation.

A major paradigm shift being right around the corner makes people choose short-term solutions, because you want to wait for the new thing to arrive before investing in 'old tech'.

The problem is most of it is lies, perpetuated by those selling the short-term-fix old tech.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Exactly. He's the poster child for a virus that is killing our host. Beyond unhelpful, and well into counterproductive.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I judge people in Tesla's, especially 3 and y the same way I used to judge bmw drivers. I must assume they are a dumbass and going to do something dangerous because they often do. Wonder what percentage of Tesla drivers used to have beamers.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Elon has always been crazy.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He used to be better at keeping his mouth shut.

[–] CobblerScholar 78 points 1 week ago

He used to have less airtime

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

If you listened (as most of us in tech did) he's been fucking batshit since the PayPal days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

He's gotten worse, but people also used to be more charitable. I thought he sounded like a pretentious know-nothing CEO when I heard him talking about the Hyperloop in 2012, and it's been an impressive downhill run from there.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

He left trumps orbit last time he was president because Trump withdrew from the Paris Accord.

Now he doesn't give a fuck about that or similar things.

He's definitely more crazy / things changed.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I dont remember a time where I both knew of him and thought he was a sane or rational person.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I wonder if I could make money selling body kits to make your Tesla look like a different car... 🤔

"Hey... Does that Prius look a bit off?"

Cybertruck with a Prius shell drives by

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cybertruck with a cardboard box over it, full Snake.

[–] PunnyName 18 points 1 week ago


...
"s'just a box"

[–] very_well_lost 10 points 1 week ago

Still better looking than the original

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

The new Prius actually looks pretty good too.

[–] ch00f 6 points 1 week ago

Debadging Teslas is definitely a thing. Back when they were rare, nobody could clock the model without the logo.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

It could be this generation’s Lamborghini Fiero mod.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

If you buy a Tesla, you deserve all the ridicule you get

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I live in an area where it seems like 50% of the cars are Teslas. Half my neighbors have them. Only stickers I’ve ever seen on a Tesla are “Student Driver”

[–] ramenshaman 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just driving your Tesla without trying to apologize for it would be a lot more dignified.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah, I bought mine in 2019 back when Musk just seemed like a dorky edgelord. I'm definitely not going to buy a new car just because Tesla's CEO is a tool, though when I AM ready, it's certainly not going to be another Tesla.

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