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White House urging Democrats to reject progressive push to block arms transfers to Israel (www.timesofisrael.com)

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With legislation almost certain to fail given bipartisan backing for Israel, administration’s decision to weigh in shows desire for party to maintain pro-Israel stance after election

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah the Biden administration is going down as a terrible Presidency.

No punishment for January 6th, escalated war, lost reproductive healthcare rights for women, no functional student loan action, resulted in a more focused Republican party and Project 2025. Genocide in the middle east.

Now it's scorched earth on the way out. "But he tried his best" get the fuck out of here.

We would have been better off if Trump just finished his second term. It wouldn't be any worse than right now except the Republican Party would be on their way OUT in January instead of coming back in with determination and a new focus and a chip on their shoulder.

Cutting Trump off in 2021 and letting him come back four years later without punishment is the equivalent to letting a rabid dog out after you finally caught him. You think it's going to be easy to stop him again?

Fuck Joe Biden. And Merrick Garland is a traitor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I get the sentiment but at least in my view Biden has had an overall reasonably productive term with the fatal flaw that he was trying to be "reasonable" with the GOP when he really shouldn't have been.

[+] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

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[–] thedirtyknapkin 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

have you not been paying attention to all the headlines about actual meaningful anti trust action in this country? that's because of Joe Biden's cabinet.

the true power of the president is in appointments. in much the same way that trump is responsible for repealing roe because it was his supreme court justice picks, this is Joe Biden's doing. so if Google does indeed need to sell chrome, that's one thing he did.

really though, he's changed the course entirely on anti trust. these are the first meaningful anti trust cases since the 90s. it's actually a huge deal.

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

really though, he's changed the course entirely on anti trust. these are the first meaningful anti trust cases since the 90s. it's actually a huge deal.

And how long after Trump takes office will Biden's anti-trust cabinet members be ousted and their decisions reversed?

And assuming they aren't, in what meaningful way does the average American benefit from Google, a multi-billion dollar corporation, being forced to sell one part of their business? You're going to say, "Well, innovation won't be hampered like it was with telecommunication under AT&T, and this is a step in the right direction!"

But Walmart hasn't been broken up, or Amazon who have their hands in every pot from online retail to internet infrastructure to server and cloud hosting to DoD contracts, or any of the other sectors that we've watched slip into monopolies and duopolies over the last couple decades.

If you asked the average American, would they even know who Kahn is? Or that the FTC is even going after Google for Chrome? And if they don't, why couldn't the Biden admin effectively communicate that?

Because they get money from the same donors, the same monopolies that they're "busting up."

the true power of the president is in appointments.

Good thing Biden put Garland in the AG seat, couldn't have found a better neoliberal centrist to slow-walk criminal proceedings against a treasonous former president for attempting a coup on national television. Or is Garland not part of Biden's legacy because it's a bad part.

Biden failed his country, because he lives in a completely different one, and has his entire life. He's a career politician who helped enact a lot of the policies the DNC champions today despite their unpopularity and blatant failure rate (keep reaching across that aisle, Joe, I'm sure the GOP will be willing to compromise and act in good faith any day now).

And you know what the biggest indicator is that Biden, the DNC, and Harris, failed our country? They lost to fascism. If Americans saw meaningful progress over the past four years, and if the DNC is so much better than the GOP, why did they lose? Again.

[–] thedirtyknapkin 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i didn't say he was great and did everything we needed, I'm saying this isn't nothing. yes it could have been a lot more, but this is the first time we've seen anyone make even close to this much progress in decades. no other president has even mentioned antitrust in decades.

i think busting up major corporations and limiting their influence on people and politics is the single most important thing we need to be doing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

You must be forgetting the corporate infrastructure bill.

Biden is FDR 2.0!!!!!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Admittedly I don't remember most of his specific policies, but I'd say his support for labor (setting aside the rail workers strike; that was fucked up). The inflation reduction act also sounded important but I don't really understand what it did.

[–] finitebanjo 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, the Biden administration has been privately working to push back against the Senate legislation, with officials from the White House, State Department and Pentagon reaching out to various lawmakers on the fence about how they might vote, one US official told The Times of Israel.

Source remained unnamed, basically "trust us bro."

[–] timewarp 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Considering the Biden admin just vetoed a UN Security Council resolution for a ceasefire and release of hostages, the idea that this is a "trust us bro" situation is willful blindness. At this point I'm just going to assume either Biden will do whatever Israel wants on his own free will, or they have some serious blackmail on him.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's following decades of US State Department foreign policy. At this point nothing short of Israel attacking the US will change the stance.

[–] TokenBoomer 8 points 3 months ago

They already did that, nothing happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Do you think the Times of Israel is making things up? Because anonymous sources aren't anonymous to the reporter, they're anonymous to us. Granted, Israeli newspapers are quite a bit less trustworthy than most, but it's hard to see how a fabrication is valuable to them.

[–] finitebanjo 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I see very clearly how making a fabrication is valuable to them. What I don't see is why a US Lawmaker would do an exclusive interview with a foreign newspaper and remain anonymous on this issue, or why many other supposedly stayed silent.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

How? The thing they wanted to happen happened, and the guy they're trying to portray as having their back is a lame duck. The quote is an "official", not a lawmaker and could be from the administration itself or any of a host of pro-Israel lawmakers who would happily reassure an Israeli newspaper that the Democratic establishment is still with them all while maintaining the faux confidentiality that intra-party lobbying has.

[–] kreskin 0 points 2 months ago

trust the mouthpeice of zionism, good plan.