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submitted 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/politicalmemes
 

i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (11 children)

Real Talk, I'm getting real tired of everyone from the vaguely right of center to the farthest reaches of the left getting involved in this shit slinging blame game.

I legit don't care anymore who you voted for (edit: so long as it wasn't Trump I mean. But even then, time to start your redemption arc if you did). We are past the election and now all share the same immediate issues.

Folks who abstained from voting (or voted 3rd party) because you couldn't stomach the lesser of two evils, good news, that choice is gone. You can stop parroting the idea that anyone who voted Blue did so "in support of genocide". It should be clear by now those who voted Blue really were just doing their best in a bad situation, they are not your enemies.

Folks who voted Blue because you believe supporting the lesser evil is in service of the greater good. Good news, that burden is also gone. You can stop parroting the idea that someone who can't stomach voting for people who would play politics with genocide is really just a tankie or a bot. Not every one is willing to play game theory with people's lives, that doesn't mean they are your enemies.

Anyone who truly wants to push for solidarity and human rights for all is an ally of mine. And I propose we bury the hatchet, preferably in the objectives of fascists, before its too late.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

They're easy targets. Blame the abstainers and third party voters and you don't have to confront the legitimate failures of your party and campaign.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Dead_or_Alive 13 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

I think it is important to point out the failings of others. Otherwise they may not connect the dots and learn from their mistakes.

Sometimes a mistake is innocent, say you forgot to zip up your fly. It’s important to know you forgot to do so as it could be very socially embarrassing.

Sometimes one could accidentally cut someone off in traffic because they didn’t see them. A good honk notifies them of their mistake and will hopefully drive home the fact that they probably need to pay better attention to traffic.

Pointing out that abstaining and or choosing not to vote enabled the election of the greater of two evils is equally important.

Rock on OP. Never let them forget!

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Dems failed and people who abhor genocide unfortunately had little to do with it, though listening to Lemmy libs you'd think they personally destroyed her campaign

[–] Jiggle_Physics 12 points 12 hours ago (21 children)

I have been seeing this online, leftist, superposition where people not voting Democrat, to protest the genocide, are not a significant enough portion of the vote, to have tanked the election for the DNC, and that enough of the 15 million who sat out clearly did so due to the genocide, to make them lose. I have seen it argued both ways from a number of the same people, in different threads, when the messaging behind either, works in their favor. No these people are not russian bots, they have been around lemmy, doing normal poster stuff, for a while now. They just want to not take any blame, and also claim their issue was far more universally important than it was.

"My vote for Jill Stein/My non vote for protest/etc. isn't what killed her chance, it was people being mad about other things the DNC didn't do well!" Then, on another post, seeing the same user name, "15 million people wouldn't have sat out had they stopped supporting Israel!"

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[–] Alwaysnownevernotme 111 points 16 hours ago (38 children)

There sure are a lot of people trying to blame the left because their strategy of appealing to the middle failed.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well yeah, otherwise they’d have to consider actually changing their shit strategy

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 16 hours ago

Idk. I’m sure the cheneys endorsement brought out dozens of voters.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (11 children)

I wasn't super fond of the democrat's platform either man, but I definitely wanted Not Fascism and Some Semblance of Human Rights to win.

Now we have nothing, and I have to make plans to figure out how to get my girlfriend out of the country if she ever needs reproductive care. Great job!

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[–] lennybird 39 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

They voted for a worse genocide.

In 2 different places no less and possibly more.

They just don't know it yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Last I checked Trump lost 3 million voters since last election, and Harris lost 10 million.

The couch won. It's not like people were suddenly won over by a person they've likely seen through 3 election cycles.

[–] lurklurk 2 points 7 hours ago

Right, which is why people are angry at the people who couldn't even go vote for Harris

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[–] Rhoeri 19 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I’ve a feeling some of them know it. They’re just remaining here to maintain enough credibility to be believable during the next propaganda wave that’ll hit us once trump allows his boss to crater Kiev.

[–] ChowJeeBai 9 points 12 hours ago

You forgot at home, where the marginalized groups are also gonna feel the brunt of turnips policies.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The Democratic party or a campaign can't fail, they can only be failed, right OP?

[–] lurklurk 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Two things can be bad.

The Democrats clearly didn't figure out how to win in the reality we have, with the voters we have. They should definitely figure out what they could have done better.

The people who didn't vote for Harris deserve all shame they can get. It was not a hard choice. It shouldn't have been even close.

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[–] TheBananaKing 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Amazingly, nobody's happy that the dems decided to sacrifice the whole country rather than budge on exterminating the Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

I mean, Kamala really wanted Republicans in the white house with her. I bet she's elated to see how many will be in there now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They should be so happy to have achieved what they voted for. This is their utopia too and they deserve to enjoy the fruits of their single-principle voting as well.

When they see people sick and poor with no support or hope, young girls risking life and limb to bear the children of their rapists, rotting infrastructure and a rampant xenophobic kleptocracy, they need to stand and say "I helped make this happen!"

Be proud of the utopia you helped build by voting for the Russian agent; either one.

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